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TracyMorganFreeman t1_j5bxvtt wrote

Reply to comment by thunder-thumbs in How Covid-19 vaccines succeeded in saving a million US lives, in charts by ILikeNeurons

That is done by reducing viral load. They also didn't claim it stopped all infection, but reducing probability of infection has the effect of reducing infections.

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BobRussRelick t1_j5f6fh8 wrote

the vaccine did not reduce viral load when delta became prevalent, this was mainstream news in August of 2021 https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people

and yes there are literally millions of instances where they claimed it reduced infection https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/

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pukabi t1_j5ceoi2 wrote

Which is not a vaccine definition

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surreal_mash t1_j5dba6j wrote

Which part do you think makes it “not a vaccine by definition”?

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pukabi t1_j5dc4us wrote

It neither prevents nor treats the disease in question.

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QristopherQuixote t1_j5elmmh wrote

Reducing severity and increasing the survival rate by stimulating the immune system of the recipient is absolutely consistent with the definition of a vaccine. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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surreal_mash t1_j5fjug2 wrote

Which vaccines “treat” disease?

Are you claiming that a “true” vaccine must prevent 100% of infections? If not, can you tell me what you mean by “prevents”?

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grapangell0 t1_j5ci18n wrote

They’re not ready to understand that the powers that be change the definition of shit to make themselves right.

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