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senorali t1_iua8a64 wrote

Reply to comment by enderandrew42 in eli5: What are freemasons and why are there so many conspiracies about them? by SovietCyka756

Tell me that isn't the most dogshit excuse on earth. If it was racially segregated for centuries, would that also be okay?

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Boz0r t1_iuacst5 wrote

Doesn't sound like an excuse, just an explanation

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BaconIsAVeg2 t1_iua9ci6 wrote

I mean, it's no different than me not being welcome in a lesbian bar is it?

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senorali t1_iua9ndt wrote

It is very different. The stated goals of the organization have nothing to do with gender, but they discriminate based on gender. It's the sort of thing that makes people believe they're full of shit.

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Bennito_bh t1_iuabjcy wrote

Nah man its not discrimination; the secret initiation involves your dick.

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TheRidgeAndTheLadder t1_iuaaipo wrote

You can disagree with whether it's a goal that should be changed, it's a good conversation to have.

But the goal is specific: "make good men better".

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