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breckenridgeback t1_j6or0oj wrote

Reply to comment by ScienceIsSexy420 in ELI5: What is the point of Christian Colleges?? by C_Wisn

> In the US, any private entity can end its relationship with you for any reason

Well, no, they can't, there are many rules against discrimination by private entities.

It just so happens that most of those rules have loopholes built in for religious beliefs.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6orojk wrote

No, they absolutely can, except for a few protected reasons. You can refuse service to someone for the attitude, offensive clothing, or because you don't like their face. But you can't do it because you don't like their skin color or sexual orientation. There are some exceptions carved out for religious views, like in the case of sexual orientation, but even the church can't kick you out for your skin color

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Algur t1_j6p0pvv wrote

>In the US, any private entity can end its relationship with you for any reason,

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>No, they absolutely can, except for a few protected reasons

Edit:

I bolded a few words because u/ScienceIsSexy420 seemed to miss the point.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6p156q wrote

Did you mean to quote me with no text of your own?

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Algur t1_j6p29ok wrote

Yes. Although if it wasn't clear I can go back and bold a few words for you.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6p4ab2 wrote

So what that means is that any reason is valid except for the protected reasons. This was contrary to what the person I responded to was saying, which is why I phrased it that way. I'm sorry if you found this confusing or contradictory, but it wasn't meant to be.

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Algur t1_j6p5q21 wrote

> So what that means is that any reason is valid except for the protected reasons.

Correct.

>This was contrary to what the person I responded to was saying, which is why I phrased it that way.

Incorrect. This is in agreement with the person you responded to. It’s contrary to your initial comment.

The issue here is that you made an incorrect statement, were then corrected, then proceeded to say that your initial statement was correct while at the same time agreeing with the correction.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6p6j5p wrote

I genuinely thought my initial comment mentioned the protected situations, my apologies.

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NameUnavail t1_j6os4q3 wrote

>There are some exceptions carved out for religious views, like in the case of sexual orientation,

Which is really fucking stupid.

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C_Wisn OP t1_j6or6hk wrote

That’s what I was thinking!!! Like it just seems discriminatory to me. Like how can it be illegal to deny someone employment based on marriage status and family planning, but an institution you pay for, can kick you out for being pregnant be having a bf?

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stairway2evan t1_j6os42d wrote

Religious organizations can discriminate (with limits) for religious practices. At least in the US, there's a carveout - for example, a Catholic church can't refuse to hire a priest because he's black, or because he's handicapped, that would still be discrimination... but they can refuse to hire him if he's a Muslim, or if he's a Baptist, or even if he's married, because that directly conflicts with their religion.

But even with that, there's no legal protection of your right to kiss someone, or your right to sleep with someone, at least as far as membership in a club goes. You can't be thrown in jail for kissing someone on your college campus, but they're within their rights to kick you out, if their own rules say you can't do it.

That doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it, or even approve of it, but it's not actual discrimination.

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throwawaydanc3rrr t1_j6ozqjn wrote

In the United States religious institutions get an exemption from certain employment laws. If the religion says no sex before marriage and a man comes to work at such a place and says "my girdfriend is pregnant!" he can get fired.

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ScienceIsSexy420 t1_j6orvnh wrote

No, a private entity can refuse you service for any reason they want, except for a few protected reasons. You can refuse service to someone for the attitude, offensive clothing, or because you don't like their face. But you can't do it because you don't like their skin color or sexual orientation. There are some exceptions carved out for religious views, like in the case of sexual orientation, but even the church can't kick you out for your skin color. So it's a hybrid of religious exceptions, and private entities can be selective

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