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[deleted] t1_jchc2j5 wrote

Reply to comment by HarmoniousJ in Open-source tool from MIT’s Senseable City Lab lets people check air quality, cheaply. by chrisdh79

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JasonDJ t1_jchcocr wrote

Big difference between a single POST operation and grabbing and rendering an interactive site with tons of data points on it though…

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JasonDJ t1_jchfens wrote

Like Reddit, the huge for-profit social media empire that still had an 8 hour long near-full outage a couple days ago? Yeah.

Except it seems like there’s a lot more client-side stuff happening on this non-profit open-source site. From what I could load before by browser crashed, at least.

I’m not faulting this site, either. If anything the biggest fault is auto-loading a world map. It’d probably be better to not do that and either get location and zoom in locally, or ask for location. I’d also think that it’s probably better to scrape programmatically (I.e., have something on a HomeAssistant Dashboard that gets the air quality for your specific location) and I’d guess that most people wouldn’t interact with the main page directly.

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JasonDJ t1_jchh4fj wrote

I wouldn’t even so much say “lazy” as “underfunded”. Takes money to pay devs, takes money to build servers. More server side operations requires more servers which requires more money. Cheaper to push that to the client.

Plus I get the suspicion that their front end map dashboard is a nice-to-have but the primary use-case is API…especially in mobile. Not knowing anything about this site/app though.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchcgs8 wrote

Look, your favorite platform is not under attack right now. That's not the point I'm trying to make.

What I'm saying is that some programming work is better off using an ethernet cable than a cellular connection. Sorry my guy, mobile is not what they use in MIT for weather updates or small incremental changes. They still use ethernet for that.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchdqd0 wrote

There's a difference between one wanting something to be true and whether or not it actually is. I know you love your mobile and use it for everything but it's still not the fastest.

And I'm not saying this will always be the case, I'm just saying you live in a future that doesn't exist yet.

Believe me, I'd love to be able to program everything using my Fold 3 but the damn thing hates most things that aren't Android.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchek8y wrote

You should probably brush up on connectivity, No one except for you seems to want to die on this hill that mobile is more effective than ethernet with speed.

Most programmers seem to know this already.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchfnp3 wrote

Next time maybe you can refrain from moving goal posts when your previous assertions don't stand up to scrutiny.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchodbj wrote

Out of all my devices in the fully connected home, the phone is the least reliable.

Dunno why you champion it, maybe you'll have a better argument for a comparable reliability x speed in a few years but it lacks that right now.

The most confusing part about this conversation is that I'm using a lot of different platforms for programming. There is no contest, mobile still underperforms my other equipment. You'd be aware of its shortcomings too if you did what I did.

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HarmoniousJ t1_jchpfs1 wrote

Ah, I see. Your servers work so well that you forgot you had them and you're accidentally crediting mobile for their work.

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