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noxx1234567 t1_iv21hl8 wrote
It's the same Taiwanese companies that make iphones in china that are setting up plants , so there won't be any perceptible difference in the final product
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RayTracing_Corp t1_iv25y78 wrote
Apple Foxconn factories pay good money for the workers. Nearly 2-3x that of local factory labour wage and have good working conditions.
It’s not the sweatshop you think it is.
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gchaudh2 t1_iv28xgt wrote
Can you explain how factory workers in India are categorized as slaves? Like are they forced labor? Or is this just another brainless edgy comment ?
n3m37h t1_iv29tvi wrote
is that why they added anti suicide nets to their buildings?
n3m37h t1_iv2a02g wrote
low wages long hours. Like how Nestle relies on children to pick cocoa
asamulya t1_iv2a2w1 wrote
He doesn’t know shit about Indian market. He’s just making a blanket statement.
asamulya t1_iv2a8rk wrote
Find one on the Indian factories and I’ll agree with you. The Indian labor market is significantly different to China. The cost of labor is cheaper there.
asamulya t1_iv2al0x wrote
Cost of Labor is a huge cost. It makes a lot of difference in the eventual margins that these companies are looking to have.
I am sure they can survive if they bring the manufacturing to US but their profits would be less than half of what they can currently get. Which means shareholders will not be happy.
It’s all about money.
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n3m37h t1_iv2bbp1 wrote
If ya think Apple will pay more for the same you are living in fairtale land.
Everything in india is corrupt, you get shot ya gotta pay the cops to not arrest ya.
slazer2k t1_iv2c4gw wrote
I rather see them pay American workers than later the War machine and trade war costs
Aggressive_Bed_9774 t1_iv2deg8 wrote
you saying in 30 years there's gonna be a US vs India cold war ?
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TheDarkClaw t1_iv2e3lo wrote
They're going to beat us just with their Bollywood dancing.
slazer2k t1_iv2eayn wrote
I am saying I don't want to find out all the money which went to China to use the factories of the world went into three things corrupt officials, Military build-up, and buying real estate and companies in western companies neither the Chinese people nor Western people have profited and in the western world, the profits are in the hand of a few shareholders at the expense of the working people so I think we don't need to do this again...
grumble11 t1_iv2fzkf wrote
The US has long since lost its manufacturing advantage. Expensive workforce that is difficult to mobilize with fairly poor reliability, and tons of overhead that doesn’t exist in the EMs
Watch ‘American factory’ to understand.
iJ1001 t1_iv2gmo3 wrote
Lol what, are you even indian? Foxxcon pays upto 1.5x the local rates. They pay around ₹16k/month which is decent for a labourer.
n3m37h t1_iv2ipre wrote
1.5×0=0
johnslavt t1_iv2kcib wrote
India would side with china in a world war. They’re dependent on their economy
asamulya t1_iv2oicp wrote
I do not disagree and this is not fair to American workers either. I was just explaining the rationale.
mr_sl33p t1_iv2sx5g wrote
Thank God you can sleep at night knowing your phone is made in a responsible Chinese factory since this issue is only an Apple issue. Or maybe you got yours made with good old ‘Merican labor which we all know is unblemished?
n3m37h t1_iv2ta9g wrote
Korean, I have a Samsung
BigOrbitalStrike t1_iv2tgti wrote
Labor costs in China are rising. This is a good sign indicating livelihoods are improving and better jobs are being created not just factory work.
mr_sl33p t1_iv2xizn wrote
Unless your phone is less than two years old there’s a good chance it was made in China. Otherwise it’s probably Vietnam or…wait for it…India. But I’m sure it’s the good part of India. Not that sucky part that Apple uses. 🙄
n3m37h t1_iv2xy9o wrote
Vietnam is actually where Samsung phones are made, most of them anyway. Samsung's manufacturing facility is located in Vietnam's Thai Nguyen province where two factories are churning out smartphones, tablets and wearable devices.Oct 3, 2022
LickingAssIsRimming t1_iv32bq6 wrote
ew... i wouldn't want an indian made iphone... is there some way to tell which ones are from china?
QUIT NEGGING ME! It's a quality thing. You can neg me when India has landed something on the moon.
MallardDrake-_- t1_iv35xdf wrote
Good
nameisfame t1_iv3h1zn wrote
“We found paying nickels to be too expensive, we’ll find new markets that will accept pennies.”
KittenKoder t1_iv3h3bj wrote
The brahmin in India are making it easier to exploit the people there. That's why.
KittenKoder t1_iv3hehn wrote
When you have to work for someone else to survive, then it's slavery.
MisterCatLady t1_iv3s2za wrote
I think Apple once paid a settlement to another large company in truckloads of pennies.
unshared_ptr t1_iv3v0a7 wrote
This is such a crazy take. India is led by a lower caste man and has a lower caste head of state. Keep tilting at windmills.
BruhBorne69 t1_iv40jjn wrote
Are you serious? Do you even know the history of India and China? China claims literal Indian states as their own territory so no India will never side with China, if there is ever a cold war between China and US India will prefer to stay neutral.
noxx1234567 t1_iv40r6d wrote
What a stupid ass statement , Indians approval rate of china is around 20% USA has around 80%
Zachmo182 t1_iv40un1 wrote
I believe that was Samsung and they were paying Apple
Naresr t1_iv41wqp wrote
Get atleast 51% of Apple shareholders to agree with you and it can be done.
johnslavt t1_iv4258u wrote
Yeah, my bad. I meant Russia, not china. But I just did a little bit of research and realized that the indo-Russian friendship might be a little bit more complicated right now.
johnslavt t1_iv427np wrote
Ah, yeah you right thank you bro
KittenKoder t1_iv42j2a wrote
Oh, a figure head who still does the bidding of the brahmin. The fact you call it a "lower class" illustrates how fucked up casteism is.
Sam1515024 t1_iv471mp wrote
Are you okay bro, as far we are concerned, it was india which banned TikTok and other big Chinese apps, and not only that it was China and US, Who were friends since last 50 years. Please read history boss
Sam1515024 t1_iv47bcq wrote
I thought Modi was fascist and second coming of hitler, Stalin and Mussolini all together? Did he get weaker?
DigitalSteven1 t1_iv484oi wrote
Anything to cut costs and get back to slave labor.
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Phattyasmo t1_iv4arwe wrote
Oh, so now they'll have slave labor in India instead.
Sml132 t1_iv4die6 wrote
Three cents per hour versus one. Gotta make sure they can still afford the anti suicide nets of course
RayTracing_Corp t1_iv4lyu4 wrote
Lol you know nothing. There’s a reason Apple factories here rarely have open positions.
You can have a decent life on their wages. Cost of living is very less here.
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KittenKoder t1_iv6dev9 wrote
In other words, it's casteism, that's a lot of words to justify casteism. They wouldn't be in that mess if they weren't labeled at birth as a "lower caste".
Astral_Mensch t1_iv6k7lx wrote
Chinese manufacturing is quickly losing the competitive advantage it used to have a monopoly on. Places like India, Mexico, and Vietnam are poised to compete with Chinese manufacturing in a much more significant way than the CCP has anticipated.
One could say, “Well, the CCP will automate and leverage AI to maintain their current economic positions.”
How? And who exactly would oversee the automation and who would design the AI? The answer is foreigners, western companies. But those foreigners and those companies are fleeing China, for a few different reasons.
The CCP is all about “face” and they’re currently in a “fake it til you make it” mode when it comes to automation and AI.
All this means is that the CCP will only continue to brutalize its workers, depress wages, demand more hours worked and under harsher conditions, lockdowns, etc.
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KittenKoder t1_iv8eezz wrote
You did not make your case better, but instead so much worse. An indoctrinated slave is still a slave.
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KittenKoder t1_iv8xk0c wrote
Yet they're still treated like shit and often have to resort to working in the scam centers us scambaiters get shut down. If it was all so great for them, the scam centers wouldn't exist.
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KittenKoder t1_iv8z63n wrote
When did I say lower class/caste as a derogatory term? I dislike all upper class/caste, period, they're all shit.
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KittenKoder t1_iv94wz4 wrote
Yes, you chose "lower", I'm just using the words you chose.
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FictitiousThreat t1_ivaceln wrote
I don’t know why this is being down voted. India is as corrupt as the mafia. You can do anything you want as long as you pay off the right government official. That’s why their environment is so screwed up – – they have regulations against pollution but they’re not enforced and differ from region to region. What sense does that make, when we all have to share the same water and air?
FictitiousThreat t1_ivacnr1 wrote
1.5 times a pittance is still a pittance.
FictitiousThreat t1_ivadb6k wrote
Exactly what I was thinking. Apple is taking advantage of the caste system, an unforgivable Offense in a western company.
KittenKoder t1_ivcd06a wrote
Yes, you did choose to use the word "lower" to describe them and now you're also saying "lower cast" is just worse while I'm point out that the people you choose to call "lower caste" are mistreated.
Stop using your religious bullshit in an attempt to say otherwise.
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KittenKoder t1_ivd74li wrote
Back you in a corner. Everything you accuse me of, you are the one truly guilty.
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