Submitted by KikiBrownLove t3_11dcrje in gaming
A lot of people dislike it because of its high difficulty, but this game has got to be my favourite Sci-Fi game.
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-BodomKnight- t1_ja85vyg wrote
I agree with you \w/ There is some peoples who doesn't enjoy the game because it's very very difficult but me I really enjoyed it !
thyraven666 t1_jaagssr wrote
I think the difficulty is more tied to your RNG for artifacts and such. I think i had 3 or 4 deaths first time i started it on first biome, the breezes through all 3 in one go when the drops was in my favour. Then same happened on 4th, then breezed through all 3 in one go when i got good stuff again.
jnemesh t1_jaahvry wrote
Well, that, and when you start out, you don't have some of the best stuff unlocked yet.
ErikRedbeard t1_jabrmi0 wrote
It's either very rng or just being used to such games.
I went all the way to the end of the second zone on my first run fe. But no clue if that was rng or not xD
[deleted] t1_jaak73c wrote
Sounds like enter the gungeon. Which I sucked at.
Daryno90 t1_ja8kshw wrote
Didn’t the game sold rather poorly though? Maybe that’s what they mean by underrated
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SableHalloway t1_ja8n7sy wrote
I wouldn't know. I'm part of the holiday PS5 crowd. It appears to be included in PS games catalog which is probably why it's easy to recommend now. Many people can try it without having to buy it.
turkeysandwich4321 t1_ja9rsdu wrote
Came here to say this. Every week there's some karma post that's such and such amazing game is underrated. When it literally gets 9 out of 10 reviews and sells great.
DueAnalysis2 t1_ja8not9 wrote
It's weird - on one hand, it was really well received, so we'll received that Sony was willing to buy Housemarque.
But at the same time, the "gaming buzz" seems to.....not be there? The only reason I learnt it released on the PC was because somebody made a post about how silent the PC release was. Usually, when a hyped game comes out, you'd expect to see at least a couple of "guys, look at me play this" posts on something like the Steamdeck sub, but I've not seen that much buzz with Returnal, when comparing it against its critical acclaim, so...weird.
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wannabebutta t1_jabzgtv wrote
I think the argument could be made that it's undervalued, underestimated and underappreciated by the average gamer
B3T3G t1_ja874gv wrote
But snowflakes like to say underrated to something that they like
SpreadMurky8597 t1_ja8akpv wrote
Snowflakes? You've been watching too much right wing hate media if that's just in your daily vocabulary there pal.
B3T3G t1_ja8gjtg wrote
Sorry im not familiar with thought police irl. I think calling popular things underrated or saying "unpopular opinion: this game is great" is just seeking attention or making a click bait. So making yourself special but your are not special with that opinion
SpreadMurky8597 t1_ja8i1fk wrote
Yikes, not gonna have a conversation with that. Enjoy your hate parade though.
thawed_froyo t1_ja8y6n3 wrote
This comment is overrated.
FearDeniesFaith t1_ja7xiir wrote
Yes that critically acclaimed game was definitely underrated.
thewdfthr t1_ja9q5rg wrote
Bro have you checked out this slept on underrated game called Red Dead Redemption 2?
alaincastro t1_jaaayqj wrote
What?!?! They made a sequel to that hidden gem that I’m pretty sure I was the only person to ever play it?????
Zealousideal_Word770 t1_jac9zyq wrote
Fucking hated red ded
TalithePally t1_jab6rsm wrote
Wait until you hear about this small indie game called The Witcher 3
MrDabollBlueSteppers t1_ja9gquy wrote
The sales were middling at best despite it being an excellent game, so it definitely is underrated in a way
Maybe niche would be a better word though
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Lemmejussay t1_jaccxgd wrote
Just gonna take this opportunity to let any Americans here know that the word 'niche' is pronounced 'neesh', not 'nitch'. No offense meant, just makes intelligent people look very ignorant.
No-Plankton4841 t1_jaa9wr6 wrote
>so it definitely is underrated in a way
Underrated refers to ratings or the general opinion of something.
The game (PS5) has a 86% critic score on Meta right now. That's fair. Although the users score PS5/PC is at like 7.5 and 6.5. So that is kind of 'underrated'. Not sure why thats so low there. Did it get bombed or something?
Underappreciated, maybe.
PM-ME-PMS-OF-THE-PM t1_jac2yj7 wrote
>Although the users score PS5/PC is at like 7.5 and 6.5. So that is kind of 'underrated'. Not sure why thats so low there. Did
Anecdotally, a lot of people really hated it because they had no experience with roguelites before and didn't like the starting from the beginning after you die aspect of it. There was also quite a bit of hate because you couldn't save mid run and come back to it the next day, also pretty common in rogue games but not really mainstream.
As for the roguelite aspects of it they are lite, the powerups that you loot are pretty basic stat boosts that don't really change up how you play all the much, that being said it was a solid game with 10/10 sound and visual design and I'm excited at the prospect of a Returnal 2 or a spiritual successor.
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From a personal viewpoint I'd also have loved a "loop" mechanic where you start from the beginning after killing the last boss in an NG+ sort of sense.
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ChasingEndorphins t1_ja84sbw wrote
Best response. 😂💀
BrokenMemento t1_ja9ixqw wrote
On PC nobody even knows the game, so it’s quite niche outside consoles. Seems like it kinda bombed sales wise on steam
rarz t1_jadt1le wrote
I've had my eye on this for a while. It's been on my wishlist as well, but I'll wait for the price to drop as 60 euro is far too much for any single game. :)
jstack91 t1_jaaglfb wrote
90$ a game you better believe it better be the best thing ever, or everyone else will wait until its on sale 30%+, rightfully so.
Also it's a roguelite game and we paid 44$ for horizon and god of war when they came out. Much bigger games by comparison
loyaltomyself t1_ja7t0jy wrote
Believe me, it's not "underrated". It got tons of high praise at release, people couldn't stop saying enough good things about it, that's the literal opposite of underrated.
wannabebutta t1_jabyp2t wrote
adjective
rated or evaluated too low; underestimated or undervalued
Using the actual definition you could easily make the argument that the game was undervalued and underestimated by the average gamer. "Rated" isn't just referring to people who get paid to critique.
I think the Fast and Furious movies are overrated as fuck and they make shitloads of money in spite of having terrible reviews
josenight t1_ja7v5fa wrote
Not underrated just niche. Two different things.
bobdole3-2 t1_ja817c0 wrote
I don't even think it's that niche. Returnal sold more than 500,000 units despite launching as a PS5 exclusive at a time when it was impossible to buy PS5s. It's not Elden Ring or COD of course, but more than half a million units without being backwards compatible is definitely nothing to sneeze at.
LoSouLibra t1_ja8nyl3 wrote
Yeah, and a lot of PS5's there were out there weren't even in the hands of people who actually wanted to buy and play games on them. They were in the hands of scalpers. And after some people dropped their $1000 out of desperation to get one, they had barely any money left to buy games with.
A lot of launch and first year games probably got hammered sales-wise. Read a lot of articles about how most PS5's were in the hands of scalpers instead of customers who would have purchased at least 2 or 3 games. Then, people who dropped $1000 or more on ebay probably couldn't afford more than 1 game for quite awhile.
OSRS_Satriani t1_jaae3v6 wrote
I got it on PC but I go frustrated with it after 10 hours of struggling in the first area and blasted through it with god mode on. I now realize that roguelikes aren't my type of game.
murleque t1_ja8bd9k wrote
Metacritic: 86%. Redditor: What an underrated game
ebrownzzz t1_ja7zjg4 wrote
great game, that 5th biome though...
PrincessMonopoke t1_ja81n4t wrote
For realio...>! I finally got through it and was kinda disappointed there wasn't a boss for a split-second, but then I was like, "Thank goodness....get me outta this frozen hell!!!" !<
LuckyPerro123 t1_ja81fiv wrote
HONESTLY. When I first played the game, I actually gave up on it for a while because of the fifth biome. Interestingly enough though, When I came back eventually, I got through it on like my second try. Thankfully the devs knew not to put a boss in that biome
Harrycrapper t1_ja9uxuv wrote
The biome was the boss all along
Cashmere306 t1_jabu4z0 wrote
I'm mid 40s and it took me 2 tries to beat it. Unbelievably difficult.
bobdole3-2 t1_ja83gcy wrote
The second run of the first biome (so that's 4th, right?) is what always got me. Damn jungle.
BoatsnGoals1 t1_ja9yip1 wrote
The 3rd biome was a huge wall for me. Took me months, then, once I got past it, I beat the game in one sitting.
Some weapons are REAL useless.
thetasigma_1355 t1_jaalp5n wrote
> Some weapons are REAL useless.
That was my biggest complaint. There were a couple weapons that were way more powerful than the others and didn’t require any special build or play style change.
Still a very good game and a recommendation for most people
garteninc t1_jacq7jg wrote
After unlocking a good amount of perks for all the different weapons, I really wanna disagree.
The only weapon that falls off a bit later is the carbine, probably to balance out the leech perk. MAYBE the spitmaw, as the game throws so many flying enemies at you. Overall I think the the weapon variety and perks are great!
HotTakeGenerator_v3 t1_jaadkq8 wrote
i haven't gotten past the third boss 💀
Santefaded8 t1_ja85p18 wrote
Couldn’t vibe with it at all, uninstalled after the first boss. Heard great things about it but hey
Chewsdayiddinit t1_jabj14o wrote
I personally couldn't stand this game, such shitty mechanics on release i.e. save point getting added later. Forcing your customer to not play another game because you'll have to start over if you close the game was just so incredibly dumb.
Genio88 t1_ja7vs73 wrote
The games has great reviews and good sales, it's just not mainstream being a roguelite game, i don't like the genre either but i recognise it is a great games for those who like this kind of gameplay
Harrycrapper t1_ja9xei7 wrote
I'm not really a fan of the genre either, but I really wanted to finish it so I knew wtf was going on with the story.
badheartveil t1_jablb1u wrote
Most of the roguelites I buy are not this price.
SwivelingToast t1_ja7xz5o wrote
No it's not, it's properly rated. Great game and people love it.
zippopwnage t1_ja83ljb wrote
I love to play it coop. My main problem with it is that the loot is kinda basic and a low amount of it. I wish it had more interesting things. Love the setting and the gameplay but I think the loot hurts the game. Also the low amount of weapons.
ChrRome t1_ja82wl5 wrote
I really liked it, then got on a several hour run where I got towards the end of the game before dying, and never want to touch it again. There just isn't enough progression between deaths imo.
If it had similar mechanics without being a Roguelike I think I would have liked it a lot more.
Grizzfunk16 t1_ja8bipn wrote
This game is amazing. I never played a bullet hell game and this made me a huge fan of it. Difficulty curve is there but becomes less and less as you improve. Well...if you improve lol, if you don't adapt and learn then game is probably rough for you.
Overall I told everyone I knew to buy this game and play it. Was Best game on ps5 for awhile imo.
stachemz t1_jabm7zl wrote
Is this really considered bullet hell?
Screaming_Agony t1_jabxnd3 wrote
That 4th boss would like a word(at least for me, but I’m also old and slow to react)
readitonreddit86 t1_ja7yy20 wrote
If anything, it was overrated. Not to say that it was bad, but it got more praise than it was due because it was literally the ONLY real PS5 exclusive outside of Demon's Souls for a good long time. It was a solid 7 or 8 (depending on your tolerance for roguelike gameplay) and people were calling it a 10/10.
Aditya1311 t1_ja89yxc wrote
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart was also a launch exclusive
readitonreddit86 t1_ja8f3hb wrote
Returnal was Spring '21 and Rift Apart came out that summer. I was just saying that, when Returnal released, it was really one of only 2 true "next-gen" PS5 games. All the rest were still being made on the previous generation. I think this game got a lot of extra attention because the arena of true next gen games was pretty slim at the time.
SwoopzB t1_jaanp2b wrote
Big fan of roguelites. Picked this up on pc last week because of how highly “rated” it was. People who don’t like the repetition/ difficulty are playing the wrong genre. Found it a weird choice for PS5s first big exclusive, but I’m enjoying the hell out of it!
vivomancer t1_ja84pjh wrote
I wasn't a fan of the difficulty scaling. Bosses were too easy, killed them all on the first time fighting them. Mini-bosses can be bullshit. Had one spawn in a tiny room that would constantly spawn rings of energy where there was basically no where in the room you could stand and not take dmg.
TheAppleFallsUp t1_ja834j1 wrote
Eeeehhhhhh...
ssagar186 t1_ja83a1z wrote
I really enjoyed it but I'm really terrible at aiming with a controller and it was very difficult for me. Gave up after a few hours.
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Careful_Endbird t1_ja8gn05 wrote
I came for the gameplay, I stayed for the lore
SunsetSpark t1_ja9fza7 wrote
god im so sick of people calling stuff "underrated"
KikiBrownLove OP t1_ja9g9ap wrote
Apologies
Assassin_by_Birth t1_ja9osxs wrote
I love it a lot.
iwishicouldsleep2 t1_ja9rir9 wrote
First and only game I ever platniumed.
Breadmanatee t1_jaa6eu8 wrote
All these angry souls whipping out their dictionaries when they damn well know OP just wants to have a conversation about a game they enjoy.
karsh36 t1_jaa953h wrote
Undersold - yes, underrated def not
redditIsPompous t1_jaajlha wrote
I really need to give this a try
kayasha t1_jaar64w wrote
If only I had a ps5
YaneSCSGO t1_jaawipj wrote
It's on Steam, too! (If ya Xbox gang, sorry yo...)
kayasha t1_jab6ahf wrote
Oh true, on PC
Not sure if I can play it on high though? Is it well optimized for PC ?
YaneSCSGO t1_jad8u77 wrote
Tbh i own it on ps5 and can't currently justify buying it again so I haven't actually played the pc port yet, but reviews and such haven't said anything negative about the port, so it should be fine? Take that with a grain of salt until someone tells you for sure lol
ZeroChannel18 t1_jaatss9 wrote
People really need to understand the difference between and definition of underrated and underappreciated
YaneSCSGO t1_jaawg2j wrote
Exactly! I was just thinking, "I think this game is perfectly rated, it just flies under the radar"
I get what they're saying tho, more people gotta appreciate this game!
Kasgaan t1_ja8g4on wrote
what even is returnal...
AnotherDrunkCanadian t1_ja8m726 wrote
Is his head the twisty thing you use to keep your bread fresh?
Otherwise_Ad6117 t1_ja8m85f wrote
I think that people lost the knowledge of the meaning of "underrated"
Death-Priest t1_ja8mk9i wrote
Returnal is quite a unique game, its Beksinski inspired world and its haunting ambience alone give me goosebumps... that is not something I say often.
LoSouLibra t1_ja8n2b7 wrote
Their previous game, Nex Machina, is the underrated one.
G0alLineFumbles t1_ja8ndvr wrote
It's a highly recommended game, not underrated. The PC port really makes it shine, playing at 120+ FPS with keyboard and mouse controls.
KikiBrownLove OP t1_ja8pjdf wrote
Okay guys, most of you are saying it’s not underrated because it’s critically acclaimed. Maybe I worded it wrong then. What I mean is it’s not talked about as much as I thought it would. And a lot of talk I hear is dislike because it is too hard. Either way, I worded it wrong
TrashandBash t1_ja8qoou wrote
Wow! The point of hard-core gaming is to have a challenge. What's the platform?
Halvus_I t1_ja918bl wrote
PS5 and PC
TrashandBash t1_ja9ursb wrote
Nice! Thank you for sharing!
Plug_daughter t1_ja8ss7o wrote
Don't have a PS5 and thought it looked like a good game. Saw it got ported to PC but after some research, the roguelike aspect is a big turn off for me.
BoatsnGoals1 t1_ja9ynmu wrote
Yeah, well, YOU are a big turn off for ME!
Plug_daughter t1_ja9ytem wrote
Ok?
hyperrainz t1_ja8ufid wrote
Some like it some don't. I tried it on PC, got pretty far with bosses and gear but still wasn't it for me. Uninstalled it. Difficulty is not a thing for me as I play souls games, fps, pretty much all genre. But roguelike games is one of them I'm not too big on, only a few I thoroughly enjoyed like Hades.
JuliusMcgrupp t1_ja9088g wrote
I agree... phenomenal game
Rotimasa t1_ja913cg wrote
I was very hyped for the game on release, but Im never on board with exclusive game deal. So I waited for it to come to PC, and now, im not paying full price for a game that came out 2 years ago.
Uratnik t1_ja91ye6 wrote
I really enjoyed my time with the game, but I was definitely done when I finished it. The last half of the game really felt like I was just going through the motions.
gockeltot t1_ja92ksn wrote
Its a cool Game, but to easy in the 2nd half. 1st one was really tough, but in the second half I did not died once. After browsing Reddit, that seems to be not uncommon.
Anubra_Khan t1_ja96ird wrote
Ah yes. The underrated Best Action Game of the Year award winning Returnal. And a bunch of BAFTA awards, too.
It is an incredible game.
MiamiViced t1_ja982op wrote
Only game so far for the PS5 I felt the need to platinum. It became an obsession.
Makoreactors t1_ja9ae6b wrote
Underrated huh, this game was huge with players and game review sites
Ok-Brilliant8728 t1_ja9enrx wrote
I love it but I just keep dying.
Can’t defeat Shrike.
crippyguy t1_ja9gg5r wrote
Nope.
Eorily t1_ja9jcc3 wrote
Underrated? PS bros don't stop talking about it. I don't give a shit because it was an exclusive. Also it isn't new but they slapped the new pricetag back on it for PC release.
Arsenije32 t1_ja9l9fe wrote
Grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother… redditors will never learn the difference between “unpopular” and “underrated”
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Thermostat_Williams t1_ja9pu6p wrote
Looks like Mithrix!
Denamic t1_ja9tzdo wrote
No, it's not.
It's accurately rated.
BallHarness t1_ja9w8ar wrote
Most reddit users have no idea what underrated means. If they don't see thread spamming a certain game then its underrated in their opinion.
winmace t1_ja9xara wrote
I know right, just like that other under appreciated gem, you may not have heard of it cos it was so niche; The Fall of the Witcher 3: Newest Vegas.
MisterGoo t1_ja9zouf wrote
Not it’s not. Everybody is praising it.
Philly_ExecChef t1_jaa392h wrote
I think it’s just geared towards a very specific market. It’s a great game, for people who find it to be a great game.
The difficulty is a question mark: every other week there’s a new thread about how easy it is and oh me oh my I didn’t die once any bosses!!
It’s a great proving ground. I hope HM is working another project and keeps this quality.
Normal-Punch t1_jaa3cn8 wrote
I really like this game, but the constant stuttering is bumming me out
msdss t1_jaa5905 wrote
It was too hard for me. Which sucks because I love the game play, and the visuals. I jitsu love everything about it... Except the difficulty. :( Never even beat the first boss.:( Maybe I'll cheat now that it's on PC....
PaperCut611 t1_jaa5cel wrote
Underrated? Dude, It got high praise when it came out with good reviews and I STILL keep seeing its cover art everywhere.
Emrays t1_jaaeqig wrote
Man I hated/loved that game.
420sadalot420 t1_jaagf7z wrote
It's not underrated most of the gaming community doesn't want a big challenge and alot of people just react too slow to progress properly in a game like this. People have limited time and some people had to attempt phrike like 30 times to beat him
tonberrykang t1_jaakyw6 wrote
Sick fuckin game
Aggravating_Rain_532 t1_jaapus3 wrote
When I first started I just walked everywhere slowly it was so gorgeous
AxTROUSRxMISSLE t1_jaapz46 wrote
Okay genuinely, I have been on the fence about this game and really liked the aesthetic. I couldn't justify $60 bucks for it and still can't fully unless there is a good amount of content. Guess I am scarred from every other game I have bought recently.
MethOddsMayhem t1_jaaqxw2 wrote
I still haven't completed Biom six and it's been 45 hours of playtime. Best Cycle grinder, second to Dreamscaper for me.
What's wrong with voice chat on the pc version, no one talks?
Positive_Chemical_91 t1_jaar3a8 wrote
I’ll get it for pc when it goes on sale
TheChozoKnight t1_jab4ssk wrote
Dat organ tho.... >!Hyperion!<
Vemakor t1_jab5q62 wrote
Fuck this, they destroy my brain
FirstAd9690 t1_jab8oa3 wrote
If everyone wrote their opinion as fact, we'd... Oh, too late.
NaughtyPwny t1_jaba4io wrote
What is with people's fixation in trying to frame things they like as underrated or like not popular? What is so bad about enjoying things that are beloved by the mainstream?
Active_Parsley558 t1_jabcx6b wrote
Waiting for it to go on sale on PC before buying.
Deaf-Echo t1_jabgtjw wrote
Stfu
TalesOfArkYT t1_jabjvcw wrote
What is it about? Is it like Amnesia?
XanderGraves t1_jablvln wrote
Wh.. What am I looking at? Do I call Geralt or the Doom guy?
RationalTractor t1_jabp6xn wrote
Not underrated. Just had some of the shittiest marketing I’ve ever seen.
Drunk_Gamer_Guy t1_jabxkjj wrote
Based on the comments, it seems I have to try this game out.
MyStationIsAbandoned t1_jabxljh wrote
I can't see myself enjoying this honestly.
I think im just at the point where need more than just combat out of a game. i want character creation, i want that character to live in the world, i want to do a ton of non-combat stuff. I still enjoy narrative stuff, but when I'm looking at these games, i can't justify spending so much money on them...
like looking at Skyrim and Oblivion and GTA etc, those games are worth their weight in gold. But then I look at other games and just think...why would I pay the same price for such games. I get less things to do, less content, bleh.
I'm sure this game is great for people who like this sort of thing, but when i see it, i just see "pay $70 to frustrate yourself"
xCaptainVictory t1_jabxpir wrote
Overrated/underrated mean nothing on reddit anymore.
Intelligent-Archer57 t1_jac1qr4 wrote
It is extremely underrated. Very beautiful, challenging and rewarding game. Loved playing it on PC. Pity it doesn't work so well on the Steam Deck yet.
G00N3R_ t1_jadk38g wrote
Maybe I'll try it out again, first time round I was bored out my mind.
ReduxFan t1_ja8lhz9 wrote
Underrated -> underestimate the extent, value, or importance of (someone or something).
Something I just Liked -> r/gaming definition of Underrated
11nerd11 t1_ja7ybhb wrote
It was talked aboit by literally everyone online when it first came out because it was one of the only mentionable PS5 exclusives.
Wr3ka247 t1_ja8tayw wrote
Personally, I don't like this game. I guess it's not for me. It's more confusing than difficult
DV_Red t1_ja8uy6l wrote
It's not underrated. It's just not as popular as other games in the rogue like Dobson crawler bullet-dodgy genre.
wclure t1_jaah3x8 wrote
It’s really hard, repetitive, and boring. Cool haptics.
Difficult-Concept-43 t1_ja8c37i wrote
High difficulty my ass, finished it in 4 runs, fun gameplay but weird story
Kakujya_ t1_ja8i709 wrote
Sorry your console exclusive isnt talked about much lol if only there was a way
FawkesYeah t1_ja9x7ip wrote
Bruh, it's on PC now...
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xiosy t1_ja8l6mh wrote
It’s the worst PlayStation exclusive for me
SableHalloway t1_ja7v9ub wrote
One of the most commonly recommended games I've seen for people getting their PS5 over the holidays. I definitely wouldn't say it's underrated.