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sverek t1_iw23rwm wrote

And yet, there is a player on a server with cheap earbuds and owning whole server, because he hears what matters the most.

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vext01 t1_iw2nb69 wrote

Gotta admit, I'm pretty sceptical of all this "headphones give you a competitive advantage" stuff too.

Maybe fractionally. Maybe...

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owlbgreen357 t1_iw2ugqp wrote

Technically they do. But the advantage you get from them is so far down on the list of what actually matters that its negligible. Gamesense, aim, and map knowlege are far far more important for competitive games

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Exact3 t1_iw2xjp8 wrote

Point on, if you play like shit they won't suddenly make you play better, but instead give you the opportunity to be better if you're in a clutch. Not gonna change your rank a whole lot, but helps for sure.

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owlbgreen357 t1_iw315fz wrote

Exactly. They just give an already mechanically skilled player slightly more information, it just doesnt really matter unless you are good enough to actually use that information

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baconfister07 t1_iw54q4o wrote

I can't do much with that information, I'm deaf on one side, and it only sucks when I hear footsteps, but can't tell where they're coming from because I have to play with mono settings. I wish there were ways to cater L/R volume, like to give my deaf side a bass boost, because I can feel it if it's loud enough, but then it'll just be too loud for my good side. I don't win all the time, but my K/D is usually pretty good by the end.

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Exact3 t1_iw369nw wrote

No, that is nothing what I'm talking about. I get it, the crowd is the sixth player, but that's how it is in sports; people are crazy.

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shall_2 t1_iw3kzza wrote

What? They had like the same exact comment as you?

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nikhoxz t1_iw4yosg wrote

yeah, bad players will be bad even with wallhacks or aimbots...

think is if you are a good player this will definetly help you, not too much probably thou.

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blooblayzer t1_iw5uk5s wrote

It's hilarious spectating cheaters and watching how bad they are at whatever game they're cheating in.

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sverek t1_iw60uv4 wrote

Headphones do not give you any significant advantage, the volume do.

More detailed headphones like DT1990, will present more details in sound, but it does change the fact that there was a foot step somewhere around you. In my opinion, DT1990 does the opposite of helping. There amount of details I hear, does not help, but distract me from gaming. I do not want to hear how crispy or or how mistakes there are in the footstep sound. I just want to hear it.

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IAmAgainst t1_iw32vka wrote

If they do, then you wouldn't be a more skilled player but a player with better headphones.

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TheRadiantSoap t1_iw3yt4u wrote

Doesn't matter how you work the udder, just that you got the milk 😉

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Jontun189 t1_iw3s3sr wrote

Good headphones literally changed the game for me on CSGO. On other games? Not so much. Like you said, fractionally... Maybe. Still fucking hate CSGO though.

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MyNameIsRay t1_iw3g8ow wrote

I routinely get called a cheater for shooting people through cover based on sound alone. Good headphones that let you pinpoint sources sure do help.

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make_moneys t1_iw3u92f wrote

Visual cues are way more important , knowing the map , using the right gear , input/server lag etc etc sound is way down the list but had to spend thousands to realize this. Oh well .. lol

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TheRadiantSoap t1_iw3zg1o wrote

At least now you have good gear, how would you feel being the same rank with delta earbuds?

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elhonna t1_iw3zn79 wrote

When black ops 1 came out, i was playing S&D only, so sound was quite important when you were in 1v2/3 situations and I could hear people running across the map, and even crouching from a quite big distance, as you can imagine, that was a huge advantage.

New cods don’t seem to have as many possible cfg modifications though, and you have too many parasite noises to actually focus on enemies’ footsteps.

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TheOddestOfSocks t1_iw4cqjw wrote

Headphones give an advantage solely because of positioning information that sound can provide. It won't make you hear things earlier, neither will it help you perceive things any better. What I do notice though, I tend to enjoy the soundscape a lot more. Arguably that's a distraction on a competitive game.

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Latingamer24 t1_iw4hkan wrote

On paper they do but in real life you just need to watch any pro, they use garbage gaming cans from sponsors and own the whole server.

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So_Say_We_Yall t1_iw4v86m wrote

They absolutely give an advantage, significant even. Now, whether or not a player has the overall game knowledge/awareness/mechanical ability to use the advantage is another story.

Whether or not it's "real" or not isn't debatable.

Edit: others have said basically the same thing as I have. Sorry.

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onewingedangel420 t1_iw4w5hy wrote

i wish apex didn't still have audio glitches/no audio issues so my headphones could actually make a difference jeez lol

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patrick_j t1_iw3ho6p wrote

100%. Audio fidelity is a very small part of being good at competitive games. Most of the top level players use whatever company sponsors them, and almost none of them use audiophile headphones. The headphones are usually from a company that also makes keyboards. One of the best Apex Legends players (aceu) uses apple earbuds for Christ’s sake.

Unless the game is heavily dependent on a lot of sneaking around and picking up tiny sounds, great headphones will make only the smallest difference.

As long the headphones are halfway decent, the most important factors are comfort and a sound signature that’s not fatiguing. Everything else is just for funzies.

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cyciumx t1_iw45vk1 wrote

We don't even know if OP has the capability of critical hearing to genuinely notice. They just think this humble brag is impressive... Lol

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day_oh t1_iw5qrd9 wrote

I also game with the 800s and I don't think I am any better at any game. Instead, sound quality is certainly more astounding it's hard to go back to anything else outside of a good speaker system.

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Injoemomma t1_iy2btsl wrote

Please help. Just ordered a HD800 s solely for CS-GO. What amp/DAC combo do you have and what do you recommend for me? I’m assuming I do not need anything crazy since I’m just using it for CS-GO. I want something easy to use since I’m not tech savvy and don’t have have patience to mess with electronics.

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day_oh t1_iy2vlmy wrote

I have a simple set up using Schitt Hel (ver 1 and not 2e) as my dac/amp connected to the controller! You can use the usb to connect straight to the consoles but you lose access to mic functionality. Also i find the spatial audio feature from both the PS5 and Series X work better through the controller.

My set up goes as follows: Controller -> In-line cable -> Schitt Hel dac/amp -> HD800s

You can find a lavalier mic and connect to the Schitt Hel mic out which has volume control!

Hope this helps and congrats on your new HD800s!

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Injoemomma t1_iy4e32u wrote

Thanks! You think the version 2e is better? It’s very affordable. I will use it on pc. You think it’s enough to power the hd800s when using it on pc for counterstrike? Is that a DAC and amp combo? Sorry. I’m a noob to all this. Lol. Thanks! I’m excited! How do you like the comfort? I can’t have something clamping on my head. That’s why I bought them. They haven’t arrived yet.

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day_oh t1_iy9mmp7 wrote

You think the version 2e is better?--id stay away from these based on online reviews i've read.

I also occasionally use a SoundblastX G6 which is a slightly cheaper alternative but i find the sound it produces can often sound a little "processed"

Actually, your pc soundcard might be more than sufficient to power the 800s.

You think it’s enough to power the hd800s when using it on pc for counterstrike? -- the 800s are actually pretty easy to power so yes.

Is that a DAC and amp combo? -- yes. Schitt Hel is a dac/amp combo.

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PutPineappleOnPizza t1_iw89vpy wrote

Gear can only do so much. Many people really think that their gear can make them better but in the end it's just their shortcomings holding them back. Like who cares about lightning fast keyboards when your reaction time is the slowest part in the chain? Who cares about the perfect headphone when cheap ones do the same things in terms of hearing the enemy?

The whole gaming equipment marketing is more snake oil than stuff on this sub sometimes.

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