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Karoleq00 t1_j4kqqgc wrote

At this point I'm scared to buy anything from hifiman as I planned. Sadly idk any alternatives that will be even comparable and at similar price to sundara

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No_Analysis6187 t1_j4ku7bo wrote

Second hand lcd 2c is probably the only way for cheap true and tested planar

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Spojinowski t1_j4m619v wrote

Fostex? I love the Dekoni Blue

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FastGecko5 t1_j4mv3j0 wrote

Fostex is like that meme of someone playing with a kid in a pool, one kid drowning, and then a skeleton at the bottom of the ocean.

Fostex is the skeleton. It's like everyone just forgets that they've been making a good cheap planar for like 20 years at this point.

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ratatat t1_j4l0sqm wrote

I had to swap to Sennheisers after reading all the horror stories online about QC with HifiMan. Overall more pleased with the 660S vs Sundara, but they are very different obviously.

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Exciting-Mine-4300 t1_j4m7zbr wrote

I think most issues are with the lower tier headphones. Arya Stealth Magnet, HE1000 V2/ SE and Susvara I have barely heard QC issues at all (me being an Arya owner for a while now).

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aknudskov t1_j4mg1jp wrote

Probably has something to do with overall sales numbers due to barriers of entry.

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Lightgun26 t1_j4lmafg wrote

Maybe audio technica r70x

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Karoleq00 t1_j4lsy3n wrote

I hate how they sit on my head. I just can't get them to work and had to return them. Extremely light but whatever the hell they call that system is atrocious

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ShepherdessAnne t1_j4n3wl5 wrote

I replaced mine first with an generic earmuff head band, and then later with a military surplus David Clark ear protector headband.

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hextanerf t1_j4lpp6e wrote

Not planar tho

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Karoleq00 t1_j4lt851 wrote

At this point I'll take any option to consider. My DT990 are good and I'm a bitch for planar drivers since i had a chance to listen to hifiman, but it's a no go with all the issues they have.

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hextanerf t1_j4ms827 wrote

Eh. I just want to try planar. Is it worth it for me to drop money on a mid-range hifiman? Or would an entry level one work? Or maybe secondhand LCD-2c?

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Karoleq00 t1_j4msw1o wrote

Don't get any planars if you don't have a sufficiently powerful amp/dac+amp combo, i tried and failed using qudelix 5k with hifiman 400i or whatever the heck they are called. I just got an fiio k7 so that unlocked some possibilities, however I'm in the same boat as you, I really want to get planars but i can't trust hifiman at this point and i don't know what to get other than Monoprice 1060...

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nhuynh50 t1_j550e6a wrote

Had a pair of LCD-2C before upgrading to the LCD-X. Both are exceptionally easy to drive. You don't need a fancy amp or dac to get them to comfortable listening and ear drum damaging levels, on a phone. If all you can afford is a dongle dac and adapter then you're good to go. Anyone that tells you otherwise either has damaged ears themselves or don't own a pair.

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Eleventh_Barista t1_j4mnou1 wrote

>r70x

as an audio technica expert, these are way to much money for what they are

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Millenwagon t1_j4lohs3 wrote

Second hand t 5 p gen 2 sounds so much better than my Edition XS, in fact I think m1060 sounds better than the edition xs too. M1060 has had some silent revisions and they have the m1060c drivers, they sound amazing and they have a 5 year warranty, and mono price has great customer service.

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Karoleq00 t1_j4ltgkv wrote

Monolith Monoprice m1060? I seriously consider them an option but it's not yet set in stone

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Millenwagon t1_j4lwhdo wrote

Yeah they’re definitely worth the money, they sound fab

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StarWarder t1_j4nk80k wrote

HiFiman seems to only put premium quality into their 4-figure headphones. Even then, the effort is hit and miss depending on the topic. The packaging for my 400$ Oculus Rift was far more premium than for my 6000$ Susvara. As referenced by the meme, the cables are still horrendous. The rotation of the Susvara cups are facilitated by little nylon washers seemingly taped to the joint and this weak adhesive just dissolves over time leading to jamming of the rotation and bits of oozing adhesive. The crappy foam job in all their packaging up the line to Susvara is hidden by the satin which isn’t secured into the box at all like a liner but rather just stuffed in there and bunching up over time if you attempt to use the box for storage.

I can at least say the drivers, the pads, and the frame of the Susvara look sturdy. I guess those are really the things that matter shrug

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