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arochains1231 t1_j1brrvn wrote

Most likely due to an old/degraded battery. The easiest way to check how degraded your battery health is is to go into Settings->Battery->Battery Health & Charging (here's a guide if it helps). If the percent shown any lower than 80% you should probably get the battery replaced to prevent it from happening again, or the whole phone if it's really old.

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Holyshieeeeeeeeet t1_j1dskb1 wrote

My battery dropped down to 81% and it’s been sitting there for more than a year. It’s almost like it knows I have AppleCare.

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MiesL t1_j1e2qkj wrote

Only charge it in the sun or on a radiator 😂😂😂 (don’t).

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Bluestar2016 t1_j1fzbnx wrote

No joke, my phone was stuck at 81% for roughly 20 months. It finally dropped to 80% after, what? I think 600-700 charge cycles? It took soooo long

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FknBretto t1_j1d24fm wrote

80% is a bit early to be replacing the battery unless it’s faulty, iPhones won’t even pull performance at that battery health. This battery is probably a lot lower than that to be triggering the performance management settings

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Dougle_07 t1_j1d6llx wrote

80% is the threshold for Apple to recommend a battery. That’s when messages like this generally start appearing.

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FknBretto t1_j1djn4i wrote

When Apple recommends a new battery and when performance decreases due to battery% aren’t the same at all. I’ve had devices in the 60%s before it started to impact performance.

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Dougle_07 t1_j1dnqkl wrote

I didn’t say they were. I said what the official threshold was and when messages like this will generally start to appear. Under 80% is expected and generally means the battery is behaving/degrading as expected over time. Above 80% is unexpected behavior and means something is wrong.

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Shadowfalx t1_j1dtm27 wrote

What does this message say?

I'm pretty sure it says that performance was affected. Thus, you are arguing with yourself. You are saying Apple gives these messages when the phones performance is affected by decreased battery capacity at 80%, yet that battery capacity isn't affected until less than 80%.

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Dougle_07 t1_j1dusrf wrote

Again no. I said that generally these messages start appearing at/below 80%. The alternative, seeing this message above 80% is indicative of an unexpected hardware failure. In OP’s case, that distinction would be important in how serious to take this message.

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Shadowfalx t1_j1dvws7 wrote

You're wrong. These shouldn't occur at 80%. Apple recommends replacement at 80%, that doesn't mean the battery is unable to provide the necessary amperage at 80%.

You are doubling down because you don't want to be wrong, it's okay to be wrong.

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Dougle_07 t1_j1dxvim wrote

4 years working at apple as a Mac tech, thousands of appointments, I know what I’m talking about.

Your difficulty in understanding what I’ve been saying (that the battery percentage and message are related but not mutually exclusive) does not mean I’m wrong. Thank you though

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Shadowfalx t1_j1e4kqn wrote

Yeah, sure, I'm Steve Jobs, so I know what I'm talking about.

You said the message and the battery degradation percentage are connected.

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Dougle_07 t1_j1e5nwy wrote

Literally never said that.

You’re bitter, it’s okay.

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Shadowfalx t1_j1e7ri3 wrote

80% is the threshold for Apple to recommend a battery. That’s when messages like this generally start appearing.

Emphasis mine.

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Dougle_07 t1_j1e9myw wrote

You deliberately ignored the immediate following comment. You know, the one before you chimed in.

“I didn’t say they were. I said what the official threshold was and when messages like this will generally start to appear. Under 80% is expected and generally means the battery is behaving/degrading as expected over time. Above 80% is unexpected behavior and means something is wrong.”

You really got me

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Dougle_07 t1_j1ecdvr wrote

Bud. I hope someone gifts you hooked on phonics for the holidays. Maybe then you can avoid looking like a tool on the internet

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Gloriathewitch t1_j1lkbl5 wrote

You realize batteries can fail in ways other than capacity, yeah?

The amount the battery holds (capacity) Is not the same as current.

One is how much it can hold, one is how much power it can supply per second until the capacity is depleted.

Anything from heat, cold, or chemical failure in the battery can cause this kind of issue, you can have over 100% batt health and the battery can still be a lemon if it drops cells or electrolytes cause expansion.

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1dc1v6 wrote

My iPhone mini 13 is down to 84% after a year. I’m definitely getting it replaced soon

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Sway_RL t1_j1djdo1 wrote

84%? my 13 pro is at 97% after a year. how is it so different

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EndlessWondersWisps t1_j1djttx wrote

The Mini has a much smaller battery. So for simplicity’s sake, if you use both for the same workload, the Mini will need to be charged more often to last as long as the Pro. More charging=more wear

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AFoxGuy t1_j1dmwvx wrote

My mini just got to 89% and that’s with 2+ charges a day with MagSafe, what are you doing?

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1gbvrx wrote

My 13 pro is 99% and I’ve had it since January. But that’s irrelevant to me since that one is my work phone that I rarely use

Edit: got the 13 mini in November 2021 and the pro in January 2021

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ZuraX15301 t1_j1ghazl wrote

My 13 Pro Max is at 84%. I am watching YouTube and surfing social media most of the day.

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Zieen_Kuo t1_j1dq5hn wrote

My 12 Mini dropped to 84% before it’s first birthday, but more than two years now and it’s still 84%. I don’t believe the degradation to be linear.

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1gbia5 wrote

That’s fair. I paid for the appecare though so I may as well get it replaced.

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masteredUI0406 t1_j1dkkne wrote

I’ve had a mini for 6 months now and it’s at 99% idk how you got it down to 84

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1gbmqh wrote

I hadn’t checked in awhile but it dropped fast. I missed all of 97%- 88%

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flipflubduck t1_j1e0d4l wrote

Curious of your charging habits. I’ve had my normal 13 for almost a year now (Jan 15th will mark a full year) and I just dropped to 98% earlier this week

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1g8ej2 wrote

I use over 100% each day. Sometimes even 200%. I charge at my desk while working but also I use CarPlay a lot and charge over ivht

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futures17gne t1_j1f13de wrote

I've had a 12 mini for 2 years and I'm at 88 battery health. I thought the 13 mini is supposed to have a larger battery? Must all be down to usage I guess.

I absolutely love the mini iPhones. Wish they had not discontinued them. I plan holding onto mine for as long as possible. Will likely get a battery change from Apple once the health dips below 60.

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1g873h wrote

I use my phone a good amount. I also have a 13 pro but it’s my work device so I only try to use it for work things. I use about 125-150% of my mini 13 battery per day so likely have a higher cycle count than other folks do

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FknBretto t1_j1djvur wrote

Either you have some very odd charging habits your you have a faulty battery. 15+% within one year is well outside of an acceptable degradation of product life

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HerefortheTuna t1_j1gbrr7 wrote

I use mine phone a lot and I charge with wireless charger at work and usually the iPad charger or my work laptop dock when I’m home idk man. I have AppleCare so I’ll get it swapped when I find the time

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RyRyShredder t1_j1dcxn1 wrote

Yeah mine is at 73% and still says it is delivering peak performance. It does say I should replace it in the battery health menu, but I have never had a pop up message like this. Apple recommending replacement at 80% is just to get more money out of people.

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FknBretto t1_j1dks70 wrote

It’s not only a bit of a cash grab; it’s very wasteful and harmful to the environment.

For reference I replaced my daily 8+’s battery 3 years ago and I’m at 76% with no degradation in performance (aside from the “new OS, who dis?” features designed for the newest hardware). Lithium batteries aren’t an annual replacement item and we shouldn’t test them like that

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bslawjen t1_j1f29oa wrote

What does "no degradation in performance mean", cause mine is at 80% and the battery lasts like an hour if I use my phone.

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Underbyte t1_j1f4ey3 wrote

Fun fact: 80% is the magic number for a free battery replacement if you’re still in your AppleCare period.

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FknBretto t1_j1ggfpm wrote

Yes 20% degradation within a year is of course a warranty issue

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Underbyte t1_j1kica8 wrote

It doesn’t have to be within a year. If you have an active AppleCare plan, it is replaceable.

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FknBretto t1_j1ktibb wrote

Why use apple care when it’s a warranty issue

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Underbyte t1_j1mwgbp wrote

It’s not a “warranty issue” when your battery fails after 2.75 years.

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NODA5 t1_j1dm5mt wrote

Not always the case. Some phones need replacement at 85

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EnteiCosmos t1_j1dvon0 wrote

Never had a phone pull performance at 85%. At 73% was my personal experience but aside from that? Nope. I can maybe see that happening on the SE 1st gen with its tiny battery though.

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NODA5 t1_j1eggvf wrote

Wait till you experience a 12 mini, absolute garbage

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