Ignoring the lower estimate stated in that very same source and rounding up the upper one by half a million unless i missed the 3 million somewhere.

Only reason that gov wants to ban guns is to protect themselfes from angry nation that will discover their crimes and shady bissneses.

you REALLY think you can stsnd up to the government? even with guns, the military will be on their side

In Germany we are fine without guns, food for thought.

You guys seem to be doing fine without Free Speech too. But some people value their rights and don't like going to jail for Mean Tweets

When it comes to guns, they always turn a blind eye.

Just like how they say gun Control will work, despite the cities with the strictest gun control having the worst gun violence.

The evidence speaks for itself, and that is the gun control movement is not about safety, despite what it's zealots say.

The side that wants it also screams defend the police while also saying only police should have guns.

The ignorance is astounding.

Unless you have a plan to fix all medical mistakes using guns than that's a completely unrelated fact. Car deaths would be more relevant but even still cars weren't invented to kill people nor was medical practice just because they can kill when used incorrectly does not make them comparable to weapons which were design for the singular purpose of killing.

Before you get your panties in a bunch I am a gun owner, because clearly that matter to you, this is just a shit argument.

Ah, yes, because your rifle is a big concern to the government with its drones and tanks and nukes.

The whole “protection from the government” is nonsensical, it made sense back in the days when the government literally used the same guns as the citizens, but clearly times have changed.

US is not 3rd world country where army is terrorising its civilians on a daily basic to maintain terror if gov will fu. k up big time even sodiers will join revolition at some point.

>Just like how they say gun Control will work, despite the cities with the strictest gun control having the worst gun violence.

So the cities with the worst gun violence have the strictest gun control?

You cant nuke own country, its not a good busines tanks can be destroyed easly nowdays specialy in cities. I would affraid that microwave weapons they got now.

Yeah those things are totally related sure and yeah the germans are terribly oppressed in what they can and can't say because the germans are totally not constantly talking smack about their own politicians noooooo.

Have you seen a tank? How is the average American citizen going to “easily” destroy a tank? Or a flying bomber? Or a drone? Or any of the navy’s ships?

Armed populations are harder to oppress it's exactly why Germany got rid of all their guns right before they did some oppressive stuff. But you can trust the government it's for your safety

Apes together strong.

Ah, yes, all those cities all over the world that don’t allow guns and also have the worst gun violence.

Oh wait, you must mean within the US. I guess, logically, that means the issue is having both strict and loose gun laws within the same country. Looks like the solution is to have universally strict gun laws across the entire country like basically any other developed country on earth. Glad we cleared that up!

800 billion dollars worth of the most deadly military technology on the planet also pretty damn strong

Bomb stronger even when hommade.

There are plenty of examples in recent history of underground resistance being incredibly tough to crack. It may seem nonsensical, but people to this day are doing it very well against tanks and drones and bombs. The US has more firearms than people. People are not subdued by tanks and drones. It takes other people to actually take a foothold in some territory. I bet you can imagine how much tougher that would become against a group that was well armed and supplied, dug in, and fortified (their own backyards). I don't think it is nonsensical at all.

That is definitely not true lmao

Pretty sure my best crockpot pressure nail bomb isn’t gonna win against the the missile fired from a $40 million dollar predator drone

Bait

You can make propper charge with simple stuff but thats not the point gov would have to fight the ressistence and that would be very bad for bussines and production and US got other nations on its back.

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In my country not many people got guns, when millitary will come for people we wont even ressist at the start.

I mean yes, the government would have to fight the resistance, but what’s the alternative? Give up?

I think that right to have gun is good for freedom but bad for bussines.

I think their point was that we do not hear about, or have all the discourse over, medical malpractice which has a much higher statistic as a cause of death (recent sources I just searched put an estimated 250k on medical malpractice and 43k on all gun related deaths [homicides, suicides, accidents, etc.]).

I don't feel it's a diversion tactic to shift attention as much as it is a question of why 2A and gun control receive ALL the attention.

Yet i can't recall ever hearing any german complain that they need weapons to defend their rights against the government. Amongst 80+ millions they must exist for sure but they seem extremely rare.

• As others have stated it's not like regular firearms will be enough to seriously put up a fight against your government if the military is on their side (and if not, you won't need to bring you own guns most likely). Sure it would be better than nothing but you're keeping weapons around which cause many deaths each year for an absolutely minuscule benefit in a hypothetical scenario that is very unlikely to happen.

I think democracy is good for freedom and owning a gun has nothing to do with that

There are many countries in the world that DON’T have guns but score higher than America in terms of private liberties (freedom)

Yeah that rifle you have will definitely make the guy in a tank think twice or the guy with a rocket launcher.

really depends on how big the fuck up is

but at that point, you wont need the civilians with guns as the army will be on your side anyway

it's either untrained people with guns against the military or the people+military against a select few politicians

Describe democracy in your mind and compere it to what you have. We livin in corpo word.

This is the dumbest argument. As I said above that hunting rifle you own won't do sht too a tank or a heavily armed military with automatic weapons.

There might be a world comflict behind the door so id rather have armed civilians on my side.

Democracy is Mob rule. That's why the United States is a constitutional republic. My rights are not subject to your votes.

To be fair one would need to distinguish better between medical malpractice which CAUSED death and malpractice which failed to prevent death. You don't typically get treatment if you're healthy.

Also - it's not an completely unreasinable interpretation but based on OPs other comments it doesn't seem like medical practice was their focus but that it was indeed about advocating for guns.

So if they are not that dangerous you don't have any problem with everyone having them.

This is a neat concept. To die by accident or on purpose, which would you choose?

Idk what it's like in Germany, but in some parts of the US you really need a gun in the home. A lot of places are just clearings made in dense woods with a house and a road and we've got big animals over here that can do some real damage. Does Germany have any kind of carve out for situations like that?

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yeah because we're all moving around in tanks

That is the most stupid retort I've ever heard

Oh look, ignorance from abroad. Neat.

Sure let's get rid of all guns. I'm sure all the guns from the south of the US will also stop. You know, because if the US did it, they will as well.

It is good to clear that up.

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He's a moron go easy on him. Growing up they could only eat whatever paint chips they peeled of the wall.

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He is indirectly calling the US military so weak they would lose to a bunch of rednecks in some ”freedom militia” if the US government wanna opress you they Will and they already are in some ways.

So we need guns to protect ourselves from another Hitler? I think the fact that our last school shooting was in 2009 says enough

I totaly get why you would need a gun if you live in the woods with big animals and yes we have laws in place for situations like that. Its not like nobody owns guns in Germany they are just way harder to get legally.

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