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HickRarrison t1_j9in8lt wrote

Reply to comment by Dazzling_Broccoli294 in Pixar head Pete Docter on why Lightyear failed by JannTosh17

He said the premise was the reason Lightyear flopped, and he's correct. Kids just aren't interested in Toy Story without the toys.

What else could he have said?

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Mestewart3 t1_j9intie wrote

The movie was bad. Because it was.

It's a boiler plate premise that has been done to death. "What? The villain of the time travel story is an older, alternate version of the hero? Le Gasp!".

The characters were shallow.

The 'message' was shoehorned in and had basically nothing to do with anything in the main plot.

The pacing dragged.

It was a poorly put-together movie.

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HickRarrison t1_j9ionrb wrote

The premise they advertised was "in-universe Toy Story movie." Basically the movie that inspired Andy to buy Buzz Lightyear toys, except there was no Andy and no toys. It's not incorrect to say kids won't connect with that.

Besides, do you really expect the guy in charge of Pixar to say "our movie was bad, sorry everyone"?

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Mestewart3 t1_j9iow35 wrote

I'd prefer if he didn't try to blame it on the audience being dumb.

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paulteegoldman t1_j9ip1fr wrote

It couldn’t have been that bad. It has 74% critic rating and 84% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Seems more mediocre than outright bad

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Mestewart3 t1_j9iquwy wrote

It certainly wasn't good enough to get butts in seats.

The movie bombed, and it didn't do so because it was too challenging. Pixar made their name doing that shit. There is no way that Lightyear was a more challenging film than Up for example.

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paulteegoldman t1_j9isxkn wrote

Box office success doesn’t correlate with quality. Plenty of mediocre to good movies have bombed. You’re thinking in capitalistic terms

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