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FruityRogelio t1_jdjvzxd wrote

Completely agree. Finger wagging to say the verbiage will work against your argument, but it's true. Until it's independently surviving (breathing, with a pulse, and with self-sufficient metabolism), it is still an appendage/parasite/growth.

Edit: that leaves out in the cold a shot load of independent people that can't do those things, of course. But flopping into earth requires at least an independent pulse

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