Submitted by fjphil t3_y98mav in newhampshire
That is all.
Submitted by fjphil t3_y98mav in newhampshire
That is all.
Why?
I hate roundabouts in general
Overly stressful, too many people not understanding how it operates and so many near misses from people that switch lanes in the middle of going around the circle. It's not bad at night, but especially during summer it's terrible.
(Laughs in Lee Traffic circle)
The one in Milford is an oval and there's parking on both sides and pedestrians hidden by parked cars.
The first is an issue with driver education imo.
Controversial opinion: I love roundabouts. They're far better than traffic lights for safety and do a good job at maintaining traffic levels compared to lights. My favorite is the safety part; can you imagine that "intersection" with the inevitable accidents when they can't pull off to the side?
I've been stuck several times on MA 60 going to Logan because the "summer folk" down south can't help but crash into one another. Trouble is, our small state can't ensure good driving, especially with the tourist economy, but I think it's better than the alternatives that spring to mind.
HAHAHA! One of the most poorly designed circles.
One of the worst. No one has a clue WTF they are supposed to do so they just go for it and hope for the best.
That's me doing that. Sorry! I hate the two lanes and I unless I'm only going 1/4 around, I screw it up.
the worst is when you’re coming from 16 and people in the right lane don’t wanna wait so they just cut you off. it can be really really dangerous.
Don’t knock it; thats where your best NASCAR drivers came from.
There has to be a live feed of that circle somewhere. I can only imagine the amount of near misses per hour that thing creates.
I’ve had to hard break in the circle as a tractor trailer was going in and I didn’t want to be smushed. Mid cursing of him I suddenly thought. Well wtf was he to do not like he can zoom out from full stop
I use to hate it, now I take joy in honking at the people who can’t wait their turn in the left lane.
laughing in jersey (proper circle) voice.
Honestly NH circles suck ass. Simply not enough room to properly fit the concept but towns using over and over as a “solution”. Followed closely by new roads/old training methods.
Portsmouth is one of the larger “circles”. Keene circle is a death trap. Worst in state last I heard
I hated it the first time, it’s fine now.
The new one off Exit 17 makes no sense! Why??? It somehow has left turn arrows as you approach…
Its crazy how many people are blaming road design and not careless drivers. Roundabouts are a safer more efficient alternative to signals.
I hate all roundabouts equally
It’s not my fault your effing around on your phone and not paying attention to the cars in front of you. Ya snooze, ya lose!!!!
but i am paying attention… ? people cut you off regardless because they don’t understand that the right lane is exit to 95S only…
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I promise you, roundabouts are better than jug-handles
When did we stop calling it a rotary or maybe a circle?
>Roundabouts are a safer more efficient alternative to signals.
Which these drivers don't use anyway.
Are you a jug or a 'bout guy
I hate it too but that's because you coastal shirelings are some godawful drivers.
Do you mean in downtown Milford? That’s a downtown area, not a bunch of highways coming together.
Depends where you’re from. They’re still traffic circles in my home state.
Rotary is a Massachusetts term. That's always been the Portsmouth Traffic Circle. I think roundabout is British
I'm always in the right lane because I take 95N and nothing infuriates me more than people slamming on their brakes because they realize they need to merge left
The Roundabout Diner is pretty good though. I recommend the eggs Benedict.
Oh man, do you remember the terrible one in Kingston on 125? I'm surprised I never got into an accident there.
Roundabouts are frigging rad. Don't know why so many people have problems with them.
I will never eat there ever again after I worked with someone who worked there as his first job. He was an older dude, sex offender and was just really nasty weird in general. They let HIM cook food!? I’ll never go again (hadn’t even been besides once years and years ago)
Re-design. It was just a regular circle with only 1 lane until just a few years ago. 2016, maybe? I can't imagine how it got approved.
This exactly. The only time I actually honk.
People that do this cause so many accidents, patience really is a virtue 😇
Because people don’t understand how to drive through them and yield properly
This one just doesn't flow properly, it's much harder to get in and out of than it should be.
The Lee circle used to be awful but love it now that it's 2 lanes all the way. I still cannot comprehend how it works without everyone crashing but somehow you just drive through and it works?
Roundabouts 100% just be an attentive driver and they are great
You may want to reconsider eating out in most places because that describes at least 1 employee in every restaurant kitchen in America.
It ranks up there with the one in Concord, MA. You come off Route 2 onto that thing and you feel like the little ball on the roulette wheel.
It’s the banana cream pie for me!
Lee circle works great. I concur that it defies logic though
Damn I guess you should too then
My brain flashed error messages first time I encountered it.
Portsmouth works better then the stupid tiny 2 lane ones the state keeps putting in. Obviously never driven a truck and trailer.
I've never had a good experience there. Food and service were terrible. I've only been there twice and I think I'm in the minority on my opinion.
Just be glad we don't have a beast like the 7 in 1 Swindon, UK roundabout.
Suggestion: don't ever intend to drive in Revere, MA or Medford, MA then
I don't understand. I drive this twice daily. You have to drive defensively. I've had someone behind me pull out and lay on the horn 1 time, and that in snow conditions. Take a second, it'll be fine
I thought I hated the Portsmouth traffic circle till I moved to mass. The Portsmouth one is a godsend in comparison…
Just left Medford and moved to Portsmouth. What a difference
>I still cannot comprehend how it works without everyone crashing but somehow you just drive through and it works?
Perfectly said.
That’s because it has street that come to it at different angles
I will be forever happy when I don't have to do the wellington circle run during rush hour ever again
The only rotary that is a problem is the Lee one. Portsmouth is top tier.
I love it when there are stealth staties waiting to bag those people
nah thats fair
Move back to whatever liberal shithole you came from
I drive it several times per week too...doesn't mean I gotta like it. If I had a nickel for every time I've almost been sideswiped by someone trying to sneak back into the circle after realizing they don't wanna get on 95.
It's a standard two lane roundabout?
Because road design actually means safety, not just thoughts and prayers like the alternative.
East Derry road sneaks it’s way in there. I haven’t lived there in about 6 years but at 5 PM 28 would be backed up.
This made me laugh
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Nah. Heading north, you get dumbasses trying to merge in both ways, blocking traffic.
Heading in from Maine, past the liquor store, rhe amount of assholes who fly straight from the right is also insanely high.
Legitimately, PPD should just permanently sit an officer there and it would easily beat our tourism revenue.
We ALL hate that roundabout.
Portsmouth is far worse. For context I’m 36, and grew up in Derry. Lived in Derry until the last 10 years or so. Things have certainly changed, but Derry doesn’t deal with the RTE 1 bypass coming from the Sarah long bridge. I drive that route daily. I stay in the right hand lane to turn right, to go RTE 16N. I have been cut off more times than I can count by someone entering from the “on ramp” from Woodbury. People will try to force their way into the left lane by parking their ass across the right lane. Earlier this week I was cut off from the left lane, because they didn’t want to wait for 5 cars in front of them to enter the circle, and then entered illegally and almost got t-boned by traffic exiting the circle to go 16N. This is a daily, multiple times daily, constant issue. Realistically I’d like to say charge with reckless endangerment and suspend license. The few times people have been pulled over for doing this shit I’ve seen has not deterred others from doing it. Make some examples. Especially the ones who park in or across the right lane trying to force their way into the left. And for those who know the area and may be wondering, there are lane marking signs well before you’re forced to do something like that. At least before the Woodbury bridge.
Found the guy that stays in the right lane on 16 and then cuts left quick into the circle
What a boob
I don't understand why. It cannot be more clear of a system. First exit, right lane. All else, left lane.
Haha it totally would.
Ohhhhhh I get you now. Yes. Eff those people.
I literally say this all the time!!!!!!!! Whenever I have to go through it I brace for impact like I’m driving into Boston. I feel like I always get honked at too - it’s horrible!
So now it's liberal to hate bad infrastructure? You are a very silly goose.
That’s not a problem with the circle design. It’s a problem of people ignorant of what a solid white line means or just plain assholes.
Modern roundabouts are rad! But the Portsmouth Traffic Circle is NOT a roundabout. Its way too large and doesn't have other design elements to be a modern roundabout.
This is a classic New England rotary and should be removed or updated like the other ones.
What lines? There might have been lines at some point, but there aren't visible lines now.
There are solid white lines that separate the lane that enters the circle from the right lanes that can just continue as if making a right hand turn. They have always been there and are very visible. Solid white lines are also internationally known as something not to cross, so there is no excuse for anyone to be doing so. The circle has a far more straightforward design than many, however a lot of people feel they have the right to skip the line or are just plain stupid.
The Lee one sucks, I've had so many close calls as I'm trying to exit it where I've clearly signaled since they just jump into the rotary then honk at me like I'm the problem lol
It's not that straight forward. If you look at the signage from each direction, every exit is a double lane exit when not every right lane has to exit. It defies traffic circle logic. I'm pretty sure we don't get accidents there because people are actually paying attention. But I've never actually seen anyone trying to merge approaching that particular except the people leaving the circle K which got better when they extended the parking lot.
If you’re from MA it’s a rotary.
your not gonna like r/kitchenconfidential lol
Yeah … I understand the tension.
I Always kind of barge into it from 102 like ok we gotta move ppl
The problem with rotaries in general is that people don’t realize they need to fully commit to what they are doing. Most accidents I’ve seen happen because someone was indecisive about what they were doing. If you literally just go when you can and stay in the correct lane, as long as someone else doesn’t fuck it up for you, then it is a fairly easy to figure out.
I always love when the state police just stand on the side of the circle and just wave those assholes over.
People need to not be idiots when they see a big rig coming and try to cut them off. You will lose due to your ignorance so don’t try and beat us just to get stuck at the same traffic light.
Not only at the Portsmouth traffic circle but at all of them. Especially the small ones on Rt.10 or Rt.1
Don’t be another statistic your family and friends will miss you. And for the love of god don’t forget you have to MERGE when getting on the highway so yield to us.
U need help.
Exactly what happened to me. Early winter evening, dark but lots of traffic. The car ahead surged ahead and as I looked left it seemed I had time to merge too. I hit the gas and never saw the woman ahead had changed her mind and didn’t go! I hit her rear bumper but as she didn’t move far I didn’t do much damage.
To make matters worse she hopped out of her car as the traffic behind us tried to get by us to the right! I tried to explain that we needed to pull over to the edge of the circle to let traffic flow but she thought I was going to bolt. English was not her first language and perhaps in China where she was from that’s a common tactic? (She was a UNH grad student?)
I was worried about my son in the back seat getting slammed into so I went around her and pulled out of the way. The cops came, essentially no damage and I never heard any more about it.
Like you said. Watch for your opening and be decisive. Too many shit drivers but it helps traffic flow … IF the drivers aren’t idiots.
>I brace for impact like I’m driving into Boston
Saugus to the airport on a busy day. Like Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
Did someone say boobs? Where?!!!
I’m talking about Portsmouth, not Lee.
The double roundabout is terrifying. It is best to consider it a traffic amnesty zone. There is no justice, there is no fairness, there is only throughput.
As terrifying as it is, it basically killed the constant traffic jams. So which do we really hate more
I was referring to the design of the circle. Of course there are far more people traveling the Portsmouth circle that aren’t familiar with it and doing reckless things. However the design of the circle makes perfect sense and anyone with half a brain should be able to figure out how to navigate it. The circle in Derry is poorly designed and causes traffic to back up because people don’t have enough time and space to enter it safely.
Yeah, that one is designed fine 👍
The worst at the Portsmouth Circle for me is taking a right into the NH State Liquor Store when cars are zooming down from Maine on the US 1 Bypass and taking the first right to go up the Spaulding 16. You have to cross their path somehow to turn into the store with less than a 100 yards and little line of sight to do so.
My first almost car accident was in that circle. Fuck that circle
There’s actually a better way, but a lot of people don’t know about it.
The state actually paid to install very large green signs all over the circle that explain which lane goes where.
They’re free to use, lighted at night, and don’t require a cell phone or GPS to use.
What? The Lee circle is literally as simple as it gets.
There’s literally nothing bad about the infrastructure.
I don’t know what this dudes issue it, but if you can’t figure out the Portsmouth circle you really should reconsider if it’s appropriate for you to posses a drivers license.
It's too small. People enter it and go to the left and then just cut people off to exit on the right. I feel the the Portsmouth one has more structure amd direction.
I know this is a r/newhampshire but the one in the center of Amesbury sucks so bad. It’s more of a traffic triangle than a traffic circle…. And it’s filled with masshole drivers
It’s literally two lanes and includes room on the sides. If people can’t control their vehicles that’s on them, not the road.
Just giving my opinion based on my experiences.
That's another thing I didn't know what the big deal was.
I've probably gone through it like a hundred times. I never had a real big issue.
You do realize that I realize there’s nasty people in every restaurant. I was just specifically stating why I don’t go to that one because it even more nasty when you know the exact details of who’s making your food. You guys can downvote me all you want but you still eat out too 😂 glad I rarely do
I once almost rear-ended a teenager because he stopped mid circle (back when it was one lane) to wave in a big truck. Driver refused then eventually had to go when kid wasn't moving
Yeah I pissed someone off at this roundabout a few days ago and it was my fault. I’m from Jersey and can’t think of any roundabouts in state. Hit this one and the gps didn’t tell me which lane to be in, just to take the third exit. Well, I cut off someone going for the first exit and got him upset. My fault Dodge Challenger guy I am sorry.
It seems like that teenager should retake drivers ed. who stops in the middle of a round about to waive in a vehicle?
There was a time when some nearby states unwisely chose to change right-of-way rules rotaries/roundabouts/etc. They thought having traffic in the circle yield to incoming traffic would be better. They were wrong but a small percentage of people learned that way and haven't changed. It really sucks to end up behind these people. The worst part is they look just like the rest of us, so we can't know until it's too late.
People don't look at signs they watch the screen. That's the point of an in vehicle navigation system, as well as routing you around traffic, tell you how much over the speed limit you're going, where the cops are, whether there's animals on the road, potholes and objects on the road. You've heard of these things?
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I do, too. The one in Lee is pretty awful, too.