Mmmm. Shameful.

What an absolutely useless article. You'd think with so few actual crimes, they could list them out or something, provide some context. But no, number is up. Nothing about severity or anything like that. Could be 34 instances of graffiti targeting a "protected class" for all that article shows.

Never change, NPR.

Actually.. at least they linked it:

Destruction/Damage/Vandalism of Property:  16

Intimidation:  13

Simple Assault:  6

Aggravated Assault:  1

All Other Larceny:  0

Mostly minor stuff. I really dislike the "hate crime" concept. Shouldn't matter who you assault or intimidate or what-not, justice is supposed to be blind.

Even if NH didn't allow the gay panic defense, this would be a stupid position.

Just like NPR, pointless blather with nothing of consequence.

Just like you on every post. You even had to correct yourself here because you didn't bother to read the article to begin with. Commence backtracking...

Yea, I added more details after checking the links. Doesn't change the fact that the NPR article didn't go into details. Sorry for providing more information, must have ruined your day.

You're the one who went out of your way to try to blindly defend criminals.

What do I have to add? Nazis in the streets of NH is not a direction I'm excited about. Whether you like the idea of "hate" crimes or not. Arguing the semantics is just deflection as far as I'm concerned.

>You're the one who went out of your way to try to blindly defend criminals.

I'm defending victims. Crimes committed against someone shouldn't matter less because they're not the right type of victim.

> Nazis in the streets of NH is not a direction I'm excited about.

You'll be happy to know that we won WWII.

If we won WWII why do we allow Nazis in our streets?

I know this is more deflection, I'm just curious.

There are no Nazis in the streets. They were all defeated. What you're witnessing is a bunch of smooth brains that can't describe a problem without resorting to calling someone or a group of people the worst possible name they can think of, or in reverse, a group of smooth brains that want to seem tougher than they are calling themselves the worst possible name they can think of. The proper term would be "neo-Nazi", but still.. you seriously think they're out doing work for the fuhrer, or are they just a group of thugs?

Now pls do stats for rapes, murders, and violent crimes committed by criminals that were released with zero consequences.

Oh so you're just taking issue with Nazi vs neo-Nazi? Tell me how you're not arguing semantics as a deflection tactic again?

You're ignoring the larger point and focusing on the minor. Justice should be blind, we should all be protected equally. If you just want to argue with me specifically and ignore the article, then piss off.

FBI is a corrupt police state…nothing they say is valid

Legit

Because it’s a lie

So when the neo-Nazis organize we shouldn't consider them a group and solely treat them as individual, even though they're saying "we're a neo-Nazi group that hates other groups"? Glad you're not a lawmaker...

Is it any different than a violent street gang or a serious drug operation? Should a group like MS13 be treated less serious because they're not targeting a protected class, but a bunch of LARPers calling themselves neo-Nazis should be treated harsher? How does that benefit society? Why should justice not be blind in that kind of scenario?

What?

No, I don't think they should be treated less severely. I don't think anyone is suggesting that. What does that have to do with hate crimes increasing anyway? It's just an odd hill to die on here. Crime organizations that target protected groups should be punished to the full extent of the law. Protected classes are protected for a reason--they're already under duress for their situation. Intentionally targeting them, in my mind, is worse than a "standard" crime.

You're trying to have it both ways. You say it's a "worse crime" but that one shouldn't be treated "less severely". Which is it? Who's to say someone in a non-protected class hasn't had a worse life than a victim that was part of one?

I still don't see the logic or benefit to society in treating one as a more serious crime than the other. The acts committed are the crime. A victim shouldn't be seen as less of a victim because of who they are.

Lower than the population at large. Thanks for playing.

So, what would you charge Nazis for a genocide of some millions of people? Just like, a standard homicide charge? We might have to agree to disagree on this...

Do we have a genocide of millions going on within our borders? I'm talking about present-day, domestic stuff that would be tried through the courts. What the heck are you going on about?

Same can be said for these hate crimes npr is trying to sensationalize. Only difference is we’re seeing more than an “uptick” in these violent crimes. And we also know exactly who’s committing them, unlike these unknown hate crimes. Odd that one gets more attention than the other...

You're not talking any anything except in circles

You're talking about genocides, I'm talking about our justice system and how we deal with criminal matters. This is why names matter. You've dragged actual Nazis into this even though that war is long over. It's 2022, this is a discussion about an article about crime statistics in NH.

Right, those statistics you'd like to ignore because you don't think neo-Nazis are "compentent" enough to be "real" Nazis. Again, I'll reiterate, I'm glad you don't make the laws.

Where did I say they should be ignored?

If you can use bigotry to legally excuse a charge, I don't see why it also couldn't be used to add one.

Wait, who exactly is committing them? I don't know.

Who is using bigotry to excuse charges? If that's happening, that's something that should be addressed. The answer isn't to inflate charges, the answer is to correct whatever has gone wrong so that the proper charges aren't being laid.

“It Almost Looks Like The FBI Was Designed To Spy On Americans Who May Disagree With [Establishment] Policies, Especially Foreign Policy.”

Ron Paul prophetically called it 30 years ago.

Not a fan of the term, “hate crimes.” Seems like it is just a PC term being pushed into law. Why should assault be different if it is a person of one race against a person of the same race than if it is perpetrated against a person of a different race. I would like to understand better. Please advise

I got the 5 minute video clip lol

The NHPR article. All a lie. Not your stats friend 👍🏻

Hate crimes are as valid as hate speech

Motivation matters. If you punch someone because they cut you in line that's one thing. If you punch someone because they're a different race that's a whole other thing and should have worse consequences because this racist nonsense that still thrives in this country has to go.

Wow that article was completely absent of data. Not a single statistic to back that headline. Total fluff piece.

Thanks for your help.

I honestly can't tell if you're trying to argue against the concept of mens rea or the idea that crimes have been used to intimidate whole communities beyond individual victims, but stupid either way.

You think communities aren't intimidated by other types of crime? FFS, in nearly every thread that comes up in this sub from someone looking to move to NH, people warn against Manchester in significant part due to crime. Does that make those crimes a higher class of offense?

If you think there's no difference between starting a campfire in somebody's woodlot and burning a cross in front of a black person's house, I do not think I can help you.

Right!? No data whatsoever. Except in the first 2 paragraphs. And this link in the 3rd paragraph. Aside from that, absolutely no data was given in that article!!

Behold everyday moonbat mental gymnastics: to on one hand believe that the legal system is unequal and needlessly punitive and at the same time advocating for excessively long punishments for white thought crime.

Every white on black crime is now treated as a potential hate crime and sensationalized as such regardless of evidence to the contrary (clear evidence such as libel cases being won against media companies pushing a false narrative).

Meanwhile legitimate racial-bias crimes against white victims are essentially never a hate crime by design even when the perpetrator is overtly racist to the point where they’re yelling racial slurs and/or have a history of posting racial tirades online. When people found Frank James YouTube account, the NY Times wrote “the shooting suspect left troubling videos online”. They intentionally buried the lede - being a black nationalist is more than “troubling”.

The criteria for a hate crime in various states essentially codifies the bar as lower for certain groups and higher for others. If the noble idea is to dissuade interracial and racially/ethnically/religiously/sexuality motivated crime, shouldn’t all hate crimes be punished accordingly? Shouldn’t we be able to look up simple things like what groups are committing interracial crimes without nefarious intervention from those who believe access to the data itself would might make people racist (this was literally the stated reason SF wouldn’t various info on BART transit crimes).

“Federal cops look for citizens that break laws. Especially traitors.”

That’s arguably a better way to read that. Not that I agree with the FBIs practices, but quoting that is just an attempt at making rebellious thought more palatable.

FBI? LOL. Why would we believe anything coming from them? The place is rotten to the core.

Excellent job rolling out the whataboutism right on cue.

Bro you dropped your tin foil I picked it up for you

Lol seems like the comment section might be filled with some of these very same people 😂🤔

Someone has a tin foil hat if they believe the FBI as an organization is full of shit? I hope you have a lot of extra tin foil

Bro if you could somehow miraculously drop your spiked proteins, we’d happily return the favor

I knew to blow you off at “moonbat.”

They are, to put it as politely as possible, untroubled by complexities of life...

I wouldn't giving him something to read. considering he is stuck so far up his own ass, he's in danger of choking on his own head.

Having different levels of punishment because of the perpetrator's ideas is a very bad path to go down. What unpopular idea might be the next one to be punished when associated with a crime? I fail to see why punching someone for their race should get a greater punishment than punching someone for, say, picketing?

Agreed. Both are arbitrary categories that can be stretched or shrunk at will.

An increase from 19 to 34 spread over the state for a year is basically noise. Next year it might drop to 17 and people will brag the number was "cut in half." It doesn't mean much.

For a similar mistreatment of statistics from the right, see this piece on the Burlington, VT "crime wave".

Which people?

Exactly

Exactly. If someone hurts me, and the act was illegal, I don’t care what his motivation was. No one should get neither lenience nor excessive punishment.

If you really want racism to go away, start with the people stoking hatred and division.

Exactly. Seems like nearly every article says the perpetrator was “well known to police.” Which can only happen when we have catch and release for criminals.

Absolute propaganda

Never mind the tin foil, you need to remove your head from your ass. The mountain of evidence gets bigger by the day.

News today is pretty rough on the FBI -- they were paying Twitter for the ability to censor the political opinions they didn't agree with.

That's a heck of a lot different than looking for criminals.

Idk it's kind of a cute lil quirky insult. I might use it.

Charlie from Always Sunny Called and he wants his schtick back

Vandalism of property as a hate crime:

99% of those are by the supposed 'victim' themselves. And inevitably: "was just looking to start a conversation".

At this point, when you see "so-and-so college has 'go home xyz you're not wanted here!', go place a bet on it being written by the 'victim'. Often w 'signed, the KKK' at the end, for extra realism.

The demand for racism far exceeds the supply.

Lol, magacope

Anything out of a taxpayer funded left wing operation is suspect. Everything they claim is racist. Either that or due to climate change. Both a scam to divide. All tho's who support the FBI.... stop watching criminal news network and ms13dnc.

Never watched it. It was around long before that show.

Do you have a link for that?

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reimbursed-twitter-for-doing-its-dirty-work-on-users/

Fuck, you're completely off your rocker.

Must be a slow NH Reddit day, this is garbage

The problem here is the reporter. He has a masters degree in public administration. He should have a degree in journalism. The whole article smacks of warmed over press releases. Good journalism demands context.