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okokokoknow OP t1_j6b9wba wrote

Reply to comment by CDogNH in The GOAT is always over serving people they to be held responsible by okokokoknow

Go watch the video, the shooter is clearly drunk. This is no different than a bar over serving and a person getting in a vehicle and killing someone. The shooter could have walked away from the fight or maybe just threw a punch. Just like a dui driver could have called a cab. Alcohol effects your judgment and it is a business, management, and bartenders duty not to over serve patrons.

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CDogNH t1_j6bg1b7 wrote

Nope. The bar is not responsible for the murder.

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TheTowerBard t1_j6d38m2 wrote

You’ve clearly never worked in a bar run by responsible people. What OP is saying is very true and is often a concern for bartenders. I was one for 20 years, all over the country, and looking out for the well-being of the dumb dumbs on the other side of the bar is part of the gig. You saw that video where the employees pushed everyone outside? That’s a no no. You have to separate the shitbags. If that dude was solo, he goes for a short walk with a bouncer while the bouncer pretends to give a shit about what he’s upset about. Someone else does the same but stays inside with the other crew. This is the basics. You don’t want a brawl out front of your bar, and you definitely don’t want a shooting. Even if you’re not legally liable, you don’t want that reputation unless the establishment is also run by shitbags that behave this way 🤷‍♂️

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CDogNH t1_j6dukes wrote

Murder and DUI are quite different. I have worked in a bar run by responsible people. Legally is the issue at hand so you do understand it's not on them.

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Emeleigh_Rose t1_j6blhjh wrote

The shooter could have been drunk or been doing drugs or a combination of both.

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cwalton505 t1_j6csh9o wrote

Might as well blame the gun manufacturer and Santa Clause at this point.

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