Submitted by DietCokeMachine t3_10l726w in newhampshire
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lantonas t1_j5xaqu8 wrote
Lifetime memories are having your corgi between your face and the deployed airbag.
Chappy_Sinclair_ t1_j5v0140 wrote
If you don't want to click through to the the douchey 'something something or Die' headline in the article:
>(NH legislators are) considering a bill that would make it illegal for someone to drive with “an animal of any size on their person.”
averageduder t1_j5w5y17 wrote
oh. Well that's different than what the headline says. Yea pets shouldn't be allowed on laps. Seems like a no-brainer.
lantonas t1_j5xasiw wrote
But should a mouse be allowed in your chest pocket?
ComprehensiveFool t1_j5uzz7t wrote
Well people do say their pets are like children and we don’t allow children to be on a driver’s lap either.
vexingsilence t1_j5v1qn3 wrote
Just like the hands free phone issue, I feel like this is already covered under the existing reckless driving law. I understand passing specific laws to rule out any ambiguity, but what is the legislature going to do, theorize about every possible reckless act and pass legislation for each and every one of them?
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265:79 Reckless Driving; Minimum Penalty. – Whoever upon any way drives a vehicle recklessly, or causes a vehicle to be driven recklessly, as defined in RSA 626:2, II(c), or so that the lives or safety of the public shall be endangered, or upon a bet, wager, or race, or who drives a vehicle for the purpose of making a record, or who drives a vehicle at a speed of 100 miles per hour or greater, and thereby violates any of the provisions of this title or any rules adopted by the director, shall be, notwithstanding the provisions of title LXII, guilty of a violation and fined not less than $500 plus penalty assessment for the first offense and $750 plus penalty assessment for the second offense nor more than $1,000 plus penalty assessment and his or her license or operating privilege shall be revoked for a period of 60 days for the first offense and from 60 days to one year for the second offense.
https://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xxi/265/265-79.htm
626 IIc:
(c) "Recklessly." A person acts recklessly with respect to a material element of an offense when he is aware of and consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the material element exists or will result from his conduct. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that, considering the circumstances known to him, its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the conduct that a law-abiding person would observe in the situation. A person who creates such a risk but is unaware thereof solely by reason of having voluntarily engaged in intoxication or hypnosis also acts recklessly with respect thereto.
https://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/626/626-2.htm
bitspace t1_j5va271 wrote
Lots of people I think would deny that driving with Fluffy in their lap is reckless.
AssistantPretty5947 t1_j5uzj0q wrote
Rhodes, a Republican from Winchester, drafted the bill after watching a young girl nearly get struck by a car driven by a man holding two small dogs with one arm and petting them with the other. When her rage subsided, she decided to take action. “I had a golden opportunity to make a positive change, so I did it,” she said. “I thought it was a no brainer.”
Say what?
DigTreasure t1_j60lpv9 wrote
I think it was a golden retriever
Tornado_Wind_of_Love t1_j5v770l wrote
Sounds like she doesn't have a brain
Makes sense.
As someone else pointed out, it's already covered in existing laws.
BelichicksBurner t1_j5vghat wrote
Trust me, if it's not a specific law its not covered. The post with the reckless driving thing is a stretch at best. Good luck arguing that in a courtroom. Even if the judge accepts it (which I'm not so sure they would) unless you have it on film the person could say just about whatever they want in terms of where the pet was at the time. Also for some of these kinds of people it's a "service animal" and a lot of people think that means they can do whatever they want with them. I'm no Republican...but this is a reasonable law.
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Azr431 t1_j5wb6eo wrote
You really think republicans are about less control?? Hahaha
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otiswrath t1_j6bloll wrote
Horse shit.
Who do you think keeps holding up marijuana legalization. Hint: it isn't the Democrats.
Who keeps advocating for banning books they don't like? Hint: it isn't the Democrats.
Who keeps trying to push their god into every political decision because they think it is what is the best for other people? Hint: it isn't the Democrats.
The Democratic party isn't perfect by any means and I have plenty of gripes with them too but don't drink the Kool aid of "Republican means freedom".
They want the freedom to do what they want not freedom for others to make their own decisions.
Azr431 t1_j5zffn8 wrote
Drink that koolaid!
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BelichicksBurner t1_j5vhsg8 wrote
Pretty sure it I read that it came from one didn't it?
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BelichicksBurner t1_j5vj8z5 wrote
It's not covered by previous laws. One person posted that and they're incorrect. Also side note: there's no such thing as libertarians. Just Republicans who try to convince kids they're cool. Cops also get a TON of money from Dems and GOP here, so idk what you mean. Seatbealt law was bipartisan because it was fucking stupid not to have one in place to begin with.
vexingsilence t1_j5vzi1l wrote
Unless you can show us a court case where the charge was rejected, I stand by it being reckless driving. All the cop has to say is that he observed the driver being distracted by the animal. A judge isn't going to care about where you say the animal was at the time. They'll take the cop's word over yours. As for service animals, they're well trained, they wouldn't be sitting in the owner's lap or doing anything to distract them.
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KrissaKray t1_j5verl3 wrote
Why tf would you drive with a dog on your lap? That’s incredibly unsafe… but also why would we need a law telling us not to do that?
comefromawayfan2022 t1_j5wfx0p wrote
Because there's a lot of people out there who are just not smart drivers
ThePencilRain t1_j61d8nh wrote
Because if there isn't a law saying it *specifically*, people will think they can outsmart the existing laws and next thing you know there are arguments about admiralty court and other bullshit about how "I'm not driving, I'm travelling."
BelichicksBurner t1_j5vf83v wrote
I feel like its pretty common sense. Like...is anyone here trying to make the case as to why you should be allowed to have a pet physically ON YOU while you're driving?
1carus_x t1_j60f22n wrote
Some people in these comments apparently 🥴
smartest_kobold t1_j5v07fm wrote
>If I am driving my ill dog (or cat, or other pet) to the vet for medical attention or to be euthanized, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will have (and have had) that animal in my lap for that possibly final trip with them,
I'll give you my cold dead dog when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
manbunsandkayaks t1_j5v23fv wrote
Did you not read the article?
1carus_x t1_j60g7mo wrote
It's a direct quote from the article
akmjolnir t1_j5ypd0x wrote
If you've seen the x-rays of people who've been in car accidents with their feet up on the dashboard when the airbags deploy, you'll have a good idea of what it'd look like to have your cat small annoying dog force-fed into your abdominal cavity.
People that let their stupid fur-babies run around freely on the inside of their moving vehicles earn all the results they set in motion.
Azr431 t1_j5wbtp8 wrote
You can’t drive with a phone in your hand. Having a fucking dog in your lap can be arguably worse. You right wingers wanna huff paint or do stupid shit that doesn’t affect anyone else? Be my guest. Driving is a privilege and it comes with due care responsibilities so you don’t ruin other people’s days. This is a completely reasonable proposal
comefromawayfan2022 t1_j5wfksi wrote
No it's not safe to be driving around with your dog or cat in your lap(I say cat also because I do know people who drive with their cats loose in the vehicle when they take their cats places) but I honestly thought this was already covered under the distracted driving law
cafeRacr t1_j5xr35k wrote
I've never understood why it's legal to have one or more dogs jumping all over you lap while you're driving. Throw a cellphone into the mix and it's only a matter of time until some one gets clipped. These types of people need to be passengers, not drivers.
grammarGuy69 t1_j5zzkfv wrote
That's a clickbaitey headline if I've ever seen one. Yeah, don't drive with a pet on your lap. They can still come in the car and chill in the passenger's seat. The vast majority of us aren't moronic enough to drive with a pet on our lap so by all means pass this law.
Raa03842 t1_j5wb4az wrote
I agree. Every time I put my Pom on my lap in the front seat she makes me move to the passenger side so so can drive all by herself. Unfortunately her feet won’t reach the pedals
checdc t1_j5wgair wrote
Thinking this is unsafe is one thing. Making it a law seems like an over reach into personal freedom.
jiriwelsch44 t1_j5vh7bs wrote
Tell my dog that 😂
Ok_Low_1287 t1_j5vz0b9 wrote
I've eaten dog. Does that make me ineligible to comment on this subject?
TechPriestPratt t1_j5w5ql8 wrote
Dumb to drive with a dog on your lap but this should not be any sort of law. This just gives cops more leeway to pull over and harass people. If you are swerving all over the road due to a dog in your lap then they can already pull you over.
chain_me_up t1_j5v2m8s wrote
Technically speaking it is super unsafe to have them in the front of the car or in your lap. They sell crash-test harnesses that you can buckle into your backseat that have a bit of spring so the dog can still move a bit, but cannot climb into the front. If anything, your pet on your lap could be just as distracting as texting and driving or unsafe if your animal obstructs your view or ability to drive. I really wish more people would invest in safer harnesses and just keep their pets in the back seat.