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SKOLorion t1_j33kh14 wrote

Not from here originally, so this is making me really wonder. Isn't it illegal to turn on a red light before stopping? I found this in NJ code:

39:4-115. b. intending to turn right at an intersection where traffic is controlled by a traffic control signal shall, unless an official sign of the State, municipality, or county authority having jurisdiction over the intersection prohibits the same, proceed to make the turn upon a "stop" or "caution" signal with proper care to avoid accidents after coming to a full stop, observing traffic in all directions, yielding to other vehicular traffic traveling in a direction in which the turn will be made, and stopping and remaining stopped for pedestrians crossing the roadway within a marked crosswalk, or at an unmarked crosswalk, into which the driver is turning.

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saytn OP t1_j33nh2y wrote

Yes, you are correct. My way of thinking that it is pointless was that legally, you are allowed to make a right turn on red after a full stop, so long as there isn't a no turn on red sign. Which is what this sign is saying. So in effect, the sign is stating exactly what the law you're quoting is saying. It's the same with the sign there as it is without it.

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SKOLorion t1_j33now9 wrote

Ahhhhh, got it, Sir. Thanks for the clarification. FWIW, most NJ drivers DON'T stop before turning right. lol

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remarkability t1_j37lmyw wrote

That’s how all white-background signs work, like speed limits or parking regulations. Those laws exist and apply to the road without the sign, these white-background signs are simply reminders of the existing law.

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saytn OP t1_j3b0a35 wrote

In my mind, speed limits exist on every road, but I don't know what that limit is everywhere. And I know there are parking regulations, but don't know if it's street cleaning or free parking for all eternity. Those signs are still useful for someone like me who doesn't have them all memorized for every road I'll be on. This sign is just restarting the same applicable law with no updated information, so seems quite useless to me.

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