"Most important?" lol

That law is for NY state and not specific to NYC.

I don't think we're debating if you can't turn at a red light with a NO TURN ON RED sign. That's pretty clear. We're talking about whether you have to stop before turning when that sign isn't present.

Ahhhhh, got it, Sir. Thanks for the clarification. FWIW, most NJ drivers DON'T stop before turning right. lol

Not from here originally, so this is making me really wonder. Isn't it illegal to turn on a red light before stopping? I found this in NJ code:

39:4-115. b. intending to turn right at an intersection where traffic is controlled by a traffic control signal shall, unless an official sign of the State, municipality, or county authority having jurisdiction over the intersection prohibits the same, proceed to make the turn upon a "stop" or "caution" signal with proper care to avoid accidents after coming to a full stop, observing traffic in all directions, yielding to other vehicular traffic traveling in a direction in which the turn will be made, and stopping and remaining stopped for pedestrians crossing the roadway within a marked crosswalk, or at an unmarked crosswalk, into which the driver is turning.

I agree with the point, but it's illegal in NY.

a. Traffic facing a steady circular red signal may cautiously enter the intersection to make a right turn after stopping as required by paragraph one of this subdivision, except that right turning traffic is not required to stop when a steady right green arrow signal is shown at the same time. Such traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians within a marked or unmarked crosswalk at the intersection and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection;

SOURCE: Article 24 Section 1111