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NewMud8629 t1_j995qvc wrote

This is misinformation. Blaming the entire US government for a mass murder committed by the Iranian government that was covered up by ONE PERSON who wasn’t even apart of the government is wrong. I read that most of the article and the US wasn’t mentioned once. A college was involved not the entirety of the US.

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Misguidedvision t1_j999lhz wrote

Who's blaming the US? You even say the US is hardly mentioned in the article, you're chasing windmills mate

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NewMud8629 t1_j999toy wrote

US Covered up seems pretty blaming to me.

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whatsinthesocks t1_j99a54v wrote

The professor is in the US. The professor had a hand in it. Not the US.

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CaseyTS t1_j99glua wrote

"Iran regime prof in US" is the Object and "covered up" is the Verb. You've got nothing to worry about: there was absolutely no implication at all that the US government is involved at all.

Google "prepositional phrase"

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NewMud8629 t1_j99gvl4 wrote

I know how idiots think cus I argue with them alot. They’re gonna look at the period after prof. Assume it’s the end of the sentence and capitalize on the US being mentioned.

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Misguidedvision t1_j99aa4c wrote

Where does it say that? In the entire article that is never mentioned.

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Misguidedvision t1_j99azqx wrote

Lol I'm the idiot

"Pro-Iran regime prof. in US covered up mass murder - human rights report"

Pro Iran regime..

Prof.

IN the US

Cover up mass murder.

Where in the fuck is the claim that the US government is in any way involved? A professor, employed at a college in the US had in the past covered up mass murder. It's clearly about the efforts to have this professor dismissed. You are delusional

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NewMud8629 t1_j99b7ei wrote

US covered up. One can infer that he’s trying to blame the US. To avoid this he should name the university not the country.

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Misguidedvision t1_j99btny wrote

So you just can't read? The subject matter of the sentence is the professor, the professor in the United States. Naming the college is useless to anyone not familiar with where the college is located, you also seem to want to place blame on the college, as your alternate title blames the university for the cover up. The current title states that the professor covered up a mass murder, idk why the word "IN" just seems to slip by you

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NewMud8629 t1_j99c4jo wrote

They didn’t name the college at all. Which means the pull here is the US. The college won’t take the fall for it. Everybody will stop when they see “US”. Like I did. The title name means everything

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urgentmatters t1_j99r4ih wrote

You’re the only one seeing this…you might be illiterate

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NewMud8629 t1_j99uoc7 wrote

If I were illiterate I wouldn’t be able to type and read. You’re not paying attention. The fact that the institution involved isn’t named in the title is what upsets me. The emphasis is put on the US. Not the school. It’s called manipulative journalism. It’s when journalists or news article writers leave subtle messages that favor their political interests. By mentioning the US, the writer is conveying a subtle message that the US condoned or was involved with the coverup, as well. So someone who scrolls by this post and doesn’t stop to read the article, will summarize it as a professor in the US covering up a mass murder without any context. The US is the key factor in the title. It also suggests the US favors the regime in its own right.

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Teantis t1_j99x035 wrote

Christ man, the US is not the key factor in the title except for people who read extremely poorly. Anyone with basic reading comprehension can tell the subject of the headline is the professor. As a lot of people are telling you.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9ale0g wrote

That’s the issue. Most people on reddit lack basic reading skills. The US is the noun people will notice and Cover up/genocide is the verb. They won’t care about the professor. They’ll see the US in the topic and automatically assume the US is responsible. Would you like to know how I am aware of this? I’ve already heard every stupid conspiracy theory most morons believe. The proof they provide is articles like these where the US is even slightly mentioned

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TheRabbitRaft t1_j9c6g6z wrote

I think its fucking hilarious that you misread something so bad but can't admit that you made a mistake you instead you double down for hours.

Let's not even mention that your supposed gripe is how poorly worded the headline is, and yet your comments are so poorly worded that no one knew wtf you were talking about until like 6 comments deep. Peak irony tbh.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9cbf1b wrote

I didn’t misread it. I drew parallels between this and other discussions I’ve had where the US gets blamed for stuff it didn’t do. I already explained this multiple times.

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TheRabbitRaft t1_j9ckqfu wrote

You can keep saying that, but you're the only person who thought the headline could even be interpreted like that. Its not a problem with the headline my guy... at some point you just gotta take the L and move on. If anything you're single-handedly drawing attention to a misinterpretation you claim you want to avoid. When no one else makes that same parallel but you decide to post it you introduce that idea others, creating a problem where none existed.

Edit: you also opened your first comment by saying "this is misinformation". That doesn't really "draw parallels" so much as it flat out accused the article/headline of being false. No where in that first comment do you mention other peoples interpretations or other arguments you've had, you only declare this particular article to be misinformation, illustrating once again that you were the only one confused.

Tl:dr I don't believe your bullshit excuses for trying to save face for more than 12 hours now.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9cnpow wrote

If I repost this in another reddit or even youtube people would misinterpret this stuff.

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TheRabbitRaft t1_j9ct3ys wrote

  1. I really doubt it on a large scale. Maybe a few illiterate people could come to the same conclusion as you. 2) it is not your job to police what stupid people think in the face of facts, nothing in this headline suggests your weak "interpretation", if anyone genuinely believes that they either can't read or have already made up their mind based on other crazy factors. 3) if you're so worried about what might happen if you post this somewhere else the solution is simple; don't go repost it. It's obviously causing you personally a load of mental stress, for your own mental health you might wanna take a step back for a bit. No sane person argues this hard for this long because "someone else might misinterpret common English prepositional phrases". But keep going, you might eventually convince some of the people you're worried about that the US was involved, seems to be your goal. Why do you insist on spreading misinformation? You're the only person I've seen talk about potentially reposting it elsewhere, if you think it's blatant misinformation why would you consider spreading it? Either you're a terrible liar, youre actually unable to read properly, or you're trolling. I hope you find the right therapist to help you on your journey, dude, have a blessed day.
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NewMud8629 t1_j9ctsep wrote

If you doubt it on a large scale it just shows your inexperience in these types of debates. Anyway I’m starting to think you’re a rabbit hole. I don’t care what might happen I care about us being affiliated with Middle Eastern politics.

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lucianbelew t1_j99ys2b wrote

Does anyone else remember when it was hard for people this aggressively stupid to get on the internet?

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NewMud8629 t1_j9alqhw wrote

I’m experienced in dealing with people. If having experience is now considered stupidity then sure. Just because I see something that you don’t go ahead. Lol

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lucianbelew t1_j9ar7vt wrote

Well, whether it's stupidity or something else, everyone except you can plainly see the the noun in the headline is {prof. in US} and for some reason you cannot. If it isn't stupidity on your part, what is it?

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NewMud8629 t1_j9b0m8a wrote

you said “the” twice in a row. It’s not stupidity on my part it’s experience. I’m a debater. I have argued with hundreds of people on different mediums such as discord, youtube (I’ve made over a thousand comments), amino, and reddit. I know how stupid the average person is and they usually site articles like this when condemning the US for things it’s not even involved in.

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CaseyTS t1_j99gol8 wrote

Google "prepositional phrase" and that will fix you right up. "Covered up" modifies "prof", not "US" in that sentence.

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NewMud8629 t1_j99gx75 wrote

Yes. You and I know that. But most people do not. The majority is what scares me.

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wk2coachella t1_j99ln8d wrote

I don't think you know

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NewMud8629 t1_j99m474 wrote

I know bro. I just wish he’d arranged the words differently

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CaseyTS t1_j9ae1x3 wrote

I will point out that you could have said that in your first comment, and most of us would probably have agreed it could be worded better. Instead, you said that the article was targeting the US government, which was an oblique and a bit aggressive way to get at it.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9amkqf wrote

Probably. I have trouble articulating at 1 am.

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TogepiMain t1_j9bcjwp wrote

Then don't try it.

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CaseyTS t1_j9bnvry wrote

Maybe don't post your own comment next time

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TogepiMain t1_j9brzr8 wrote

Uh, okay? This is a public forum, so that's kind of a weird take.

Dude tried playing the snickers defense "oh I was just tired so I said something completely out of character".

I'm allowed to take notice of how bad a take that is.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9c0c6j wrote

It wasn’t a bad take. Just took several takes for certain people to understand what I was trying to say. Skill issue on their part.

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CaseyTS t1_j9bnu2o wrote

That's fair! I go on reddit too much when it's 1am

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NewMud8629 t1_j9c29d0 wrote

I was on till like 3am. Even though I had a job interview this morning.

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CaseyTS t1_j9adyx0 wrote

You're incorrect about how people tend to read text in English. "In US" gives away that US is a location in this context, not a group of people (government). Especially because "Iran regime prof." is not a position in the US government.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9am864 wrote

I’m not incorrect. I’ve had debates with people who would misread this post. The fact the US is mentioned is a passive aggressive implication.

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TogepiMain t1_j9bcmze wrote

No, its informing where the person is.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9c22ax wrote

“Pro Iranian Regime prof. In US”. that implies the US is apart of it when it’s not the fact he’s in the US that’s important. While the US already has a bad rap with Human Rights, this post is bait for America haters. Especially the ones who blame the US for every misfortune to befall their country.

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TogepiMain t1_j9c33b2 wrote

Hmm interesting. Do you think if maybe say, this professor was a professor living in iran it would matter where he lived? So by saying he is in the US, they are saying "currently not living under the regime"

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NewMud8629 t1_j9c4i20 wrote

If he lived in Iran, it would keep the fight between Iran and its dissidents between Iran and its Dissidents. By mentioning he lives in the US it suggests a correlation between the US and the Iranian Regime and therefore a connection between the US and this horrific crime. The suggestion doesn’t have to be intentional.

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TogepiMain t1_j9ey6i7 wrote

News headlines cannot cater to the lowest common conspiracy theorist.

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NewMud8629 t1_j9fovog wrote

Yeah but they shouldn’t enable conspiracy theorists either. They’re by far the most annoying people to argue with, on god. 9/11, any mass shooting, the moon landing, the January riots, etc they all act like it didn’t happen they’re worse than flat earthers. Then you get people who think the US steals other countries resources, orchestrates wars, and coups. They’re starting to blame us for everything.

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