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syzygialchaos t1_jdm8ryk wrote
Geographics had a good video addressing this recently. He discusses how the traditional “Tornado Alley” is shifting more to the East, and tornados are becoming more frequent in “Dixie Alley,” all due to climate change.
Drak_is_Right t1_jdmayvl wrote
Experts actually say there are four different tornado alleys. Dixie alley is the one in the south and The most deadly by strength of storm due to nighttime tornados being much more common.
Two different ones in the great plains That make up the traditional tornado alley and then a 4th one across the rust belt south of the great lakes to the appalachians.
roseccmuzak t1_jdn9pp3 wrote
Since coming to Alabama for school I haven't heard a single tornado siren before 4 PM. Oddly last spring I am almost certain they were all on Tuesdays or Thrusdays between 4 and 6 pm, as I was always in the same class.
Kristalderp t1_jdwg55r wrote
> That make up the traditional tornado alley and then a 4th one across the rust belt south of the great lakes to the appalachians.
There is definitely one running into the South side of the Great Lakes in Michigan that people gotta pay more attention to on both the USA side and Canadian sides. With the east coast being plagued with more hot and humid summers as of late and the Great Lakes feeding the humidity, the rust belt and the St Laurence corridor in Canada is starting to get spicy. I live in Canada but when Michigan gets hit by a tornado, we start paying attention as it means that we're in for some shit within 3-6 hours as anything that hits near Detroit, will absolutely come up the St Laurence corridor and potentially affect approx. 56% of Canada's total population within 6-10 hours.
For example: The same storm system that dropped a tornado in Michigan last May that was EF2-EF3 later on dumped the strongest and most violent derecho we'd ever seen in Canada that killed 20+ people across Ontario and Quebec.
Im definitely keeping an eye to the skies this summer again as I can't trust the Canadian weather alert system. Its horrible compared to the NWS' alerts and with fast moving storms like that derecho, some only had a 2 min warning to GTFO inside and it wasn't enough along with the weather channels not knowing wtf was happening when you can clearly see its a Derecho on the doppler radars...
Drak_is_Right t1_jdwhis0 wrote
I didn't know that it was starting to extend farther north into that corridor, I just knew about the ones in Illinois, Kentucky, Indiana, southern michigan, ohio
Kristalderp t1_jdwl4x3 wrote
It feels like it's been moving the past 5 or so years. I'm in Quebec and we used to get an odd tornado every 5 to 10 years. Now it's been 1 or 2 every year in may-june-july. Our homes are sturdier than down south, but I don't think my province or Toronto will give a F and be prepared for tornadoes until they get hit with a deadly tornado and face the consequences of not being prepared and safety. People out west know the signs of a tornado and get ready, but east coast doesn't or doesn't care and it's concerning.
When we once had an alert in june 2022 for a tornado warning (the ingredients are in place, same cell dropped another tornado in Ontario) and I spotted a funnel right outside my workplaces's window. I panic as its forming. Its inching down and coming towards us. my bf who works with me just goes to the window, shrugs and goes back to working at his desk as if its a normal storm. Even if it was coming towards us and I'm begging him to GTFO into the middle of the building with me that's far away from the walls or windows.
Thankfully didn't touch down near us, but my bf rightfully got a slap to the back of his head for ignoring me once he realized I was being serious, very much scared and showed him the photo I took of it and other funnel clouds and that one did drop north of us (that spawned from that funnel cloud) that he had a "oh, durrr" moment. 🤦♂️
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xRilae t1_jdnz4dy wrote
I've noticed this. In IL, and seems like we had to head to the basement a lot more often in the 90s and early 2000s that we have in the last 10 years.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmtigh wrote
I love his channels!! He has soo many, and they are all fantastic.
ThatGuy798 t1_jdlomdg wrote
My hometown in SE Louisiana has gotten hit by a few, albeit smaller, tornadoes whereas before it was a rare occurrence. I've noticed that there tends to be more waterspouts over Lake Pontchartrain now and even NOLA has been hit by several.
tinaawkward t1_jdnmqzw wrote
NOLA resident here; I used to only get a tornado warning on my phone once a year (if that) and now it seems like every time rain rolls in, it comes with a tornado watch.
techleopard t1_jdnu29m wrote
Yep. I used to LOVE storms. Now they scare they fuck out of me because every single storm that isn't a light daylight drizzle is a tornado threat. WTF?
ApostropheD t1_jdm247u wrote
It was in the 20s there on Monday and in the 80s on Wednesday. I wonder if that plays a part in it
KP_Wrath t1_jdm4nb3 wrote
Yup. Tornadoes are formed due to atmospheric rotation where high and low pressure meet. Daytime heating has an impact on intensity. I’m north of where the tornadoes hit. An early round of storms got us from 80 to 59. Had lightening, had 50-70 mph gusts. Took out a few business signs. But it probably saved us from any truly terrible damage.
Banerinho t1_jdm3faf wrote
It's just gonna keep snowballing. Future should be fun.
effietea t1_jdn565u wrote
I mean, we just had a tornado touch down near Los Angeles last week. Shit is getting wild.
brandontaylor1 t1_jdnkjc8 wrote
Colorado had 9 wildfires between 1980 - 2000 burning ~87k acres
In 2020 we had 14 fires burn ~810k acres.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Colorado_wildfires
Edit: I originally listed 1980-1990
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They warned us that would happen.
I_LICK_PINK_TO_STINK t1_jdnt5uy wrote
I work for the federal government in IT. I support all kinds of systems, and all kinds of people come to me for help with their shit. The contract we work has a lot to do with housing and disasters.
I frequently talk with a man who does meteorology for the gub'ment. Weather-proofing new builds and existing infrastructure is his Forte.
We talk a lot about shifting weather systems and climate change. His entire job has shifted more east into Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, etc, cause of climate change.
He's a disaster guy, so he deals with extreme weather. Tornados are getting stronger on average, tornados are appearing more often further east and with higher strength than ever. It's truly a wild and dangerous time.
techleopard t1_jdntukz wrote
I agree with this. I'm in north Louisiana and for the first 30+ years of my life, we never had a tornado actually touch down in this area. You might hear of one hitting the interstate once every 2-3 years, but nothing major.
In the last 3 years, I've seen 2-3 a year and they are not turdy little do-nothing tornados.
What's bad is that there doesn't seem to be any kind of response to this -- not from FEMA, other departments of the federal government, or the states. These areas are filled with trailer homes, most structures do not have a basement, and I don't know a single community with a tornado shelter, and businesses are not obligated to allow anyone in to take shelter even when there's one on the ground. The schools do not even have accessible shelters.
I looked for a grant to install a storm shelter because there's nowhere to go in the event of a storm, but there isn't one. There's community grants, but nobody apparently uses them and they probably aren't enough for a multi-family or community-sized shelter.
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whatistheformat t1_jdqrci7 wrote
Tell the big truck people rollin' coal by glorifying fossil fuels they are helping destroy towns and lives, I assume they wouldn't believe you or perhaps not even care unless a tornado swept their own truck up into the clouds and hurtled it into the gulf.
mokutou t1_jdlqx8b wrote
NWS predicted an insane storm to roll through the area, and they were very right, unfortunately. 😔
meltedcheeser t1_jdpp4r3 wrote
Science has no right in Mississippi.
And no, this comment isn’t too soon. You can have empathy of tragedy and still hold the truth center.
Lazy_Vetra t1_jdps2ff wrote
The comment is too late anyone who says it’s too soon to politicize something is saying they don’t want it prevented, they’re saying they support it.
j_ly t1_je1932s wrote
Rolling Fork, where 26 people died, is 75% African American. They're not the ones voting for the problems.
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katarina-stratford t1_jdlsrph wrote
21 deaths is insane.
Genuine question - I don't live in an area that experiences these types of events - Is there much warning before a tornado in these areas? I understand if they form over water there may be radar(?) that picks it up, but over land? Does it depend on the storm?
EDIT: Y'all have given me so much insight into what it's like first hand - thank you. I didn't really have any concept of what you experience until now.
kittysback t1_jdlxqzb wrote
Mississippian here, currently living just north of the path of yesterday’s tornado.
As someone else said, most of us have no place to go. Centralized shelters are few and far between, and Mississippi clay (our type of regional soil) makes it almost impossible for people to build affordable basements—basements just aren’t a thing here. Where I am, it’s pine forests for miles, so there’s a non-negligible possibility that you run into a downed tree in an attempt to find a shelter.
Rolling Fork in particular is very rural. If you’ve never been to the Delta, it’s hard to fathom, but it is very sparsely populated. I’ve lived in bigger and smaller Mississippi towns, and when you live closer to folks, you see activity and feel something different when it’s serious. Neighbors will check on you and then you know. When you’re isolated in a rural place, sometimes it’s hard to know. In addition, the Delta is very, very, VERY flat, so in this case, the tornado had little resistance from the natural environment.
My final thought, and something I admit I do: tornados do happen quickly, and we get warnings, but a lot of Mississippians and southerners don’t necessarily take them seriously. There are plenty of memes about this, and it’s unfortunately true because we get warnings for them quite frequently. This year, where I live, we’ve had them 7 times, including one 3 weeks ago. I usually start getting nervous when I hear hail (had it last night), but deadly storms don’t always produce it. But again, Mississippi is still quite rural, and some people don’t have dependable cell service. A friend of mine who lives out in the county only got last night’s message after it had passed through.
dboy120 t1_jdmhg6h wrote
Could the number of people living in mobile homes in rural areas also contribute? There is essentially no safe place to go in a trailer, you HAVE to go somewhere else which just isn’t always an option.
AngriestManinWestTX t1_jdn3gyk wrote
Yes, mobile homes are death traps in just about any tornado. Even the homes are either old or flimsily constructed. Increasing building codes might help, but then how would the people living there afford new homes with more stringent building codes? This part of the country is by and large, quite poor.
Clunas t1_jdncfm8 wrote
Adding on to it: that area is poor by even Mississippi standards. Standard building maintenance often straight up doesn't happen. Tarps are sometimes considered permanent roof repairs.
techleopard t1_jdnv3h7 wrote
We need a combination of both laws and grants being made available.
The federal government offers a piddly community grant that a township can apply for, but as we know, rural towns are spread out so even if they built one, it wouldn't be sufficient when it takes you 10-15 minutes to get to it on a good day.
But there is NOTHING for homeowners, which needs to change. That is where stormshelters are needed -- family sized ones at the home, where they can actually be useful.
And we need firm laws stating that every trailer park and HOA community needs a shelter within 5 minutes on foot of every home.
lifeofblair t1_jdmvpp7 wrote
I remember in college at State tornadoes were just another reason to hang out with friends at houses. We “sheltered” but not seriously at all and like you said many never take them seriously. We always had people that would go outside to look for them and hangout.
techleopard t1_jdnuhoz wrote
Screaming winds and pouring rain? You're safe.
Hard rain followed suddenly by silence? You better be looking for a ditch, immediately.
katarina-stratford t1_jdnxq3o wrote
This is so detailed - thank you. You really painted a picture for me. The major natural threat here is wildfire - I've never had to consider the threat of a tornado.
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MajesticOuting t1_jdn8wqv wrote
Its actually the sand that causes the problems with the basements as the very very random patch's of it in the state means digging a hole in the ground is a gamble if it will collapse or not.
sharpshooter999 t1_jdnjhzw wrote
I'm from Nebraska and have a cousin who moved to Houston. I know they can't have basements due to the high water table but not having a basement just feels wrong. A lot of newer homes have an actual room in the basement completely made of concrete, all four walls and the ceiling, just for a tornado room
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d3lphicmoon t1_jdlubg3 wrote
A lot of people have no where safe to go.
ConvolutedFluid t1_jdlvqwz wrote
This.
Several of the top 10 deadliest in US history have occurred in MS. Many other tornadoes with lesser but still substantial numbers of casualties have plagued the state. Most of these are quite violent, earning F4 and F5 ratings. The intensity, coupled with the state's historically impoverished population living in cheap housing leads to disastrous consequences. Storm shelters or installing a basement are costly things as well. It's also my understanding that parts of the state have a high water table making it challenging to do anyways.
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RNG__GoatSlayer t1_jdlzat9 wrote
Night tornadoes are scary as hell.
PmadFlyer t1_jdnf5wi wrote
I will say, living in Kansas the storms usually die down or just have wind and hail after around 9 or 10 pm.
Penguin_shit15 t1_jdmpqf8 wrote
Oklahoma here.. Lived here my whole 47 years.. Seen countless tornadoes and been through 3 of them (meaning close enough to take damage).. and many close calls (where it missed by a mile or so..)..
Here is my story from 5 or 6 years ago on this tornado... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dBa-TM11A .. Not really expecting bad weather, just a small chance. Me and the wife are in the living room and its windy as he'll outside and I hear a little crash outside, looked out the window and my flower pots were being moved around. I didn't want them to break so I went out there to move them out of the wind. I moved 3 of them and then heard that sound you don't forget... So many people say that it sounds like a train, but it seems most people don't think of the right sound. So some people reading this will learn something here.. They think of the train sound as being the horn.. NOPE.. That's NOT the sound of a tornado.. Its the rumbling it makes as it goes by on the tracks.
Anyways I heard that noise and looked beyond my trees and saw the telltale blue of power flashes. No siren.. No warning. I ran inside and told my wife to get in the safe room while I grabbed the cat. I never actually took shelter because I could see on my own radar program that it was headed just a bit south of us. By the time the sirens went off, it was 5 miles away.
So it really depends on the storm how much notice you get. These storms can fire up and get severe in minutes.. Others they will talk about for days and so we are all ready.. We have armies of storm chasers out there and during the day we don't get too many surprises.. But night is a different story.
And the stereotype is true.. When an Oklahoman man hears a tornado siren, we mostly go outside to see if we need to duck and cover or not.
GreenStrong t1_jdm0h8f wrote
The National Weather Service issues tornado watch’s several hours ahead of time to let people know that a tornado is possible, and they issue geographically specific warnings as soon as they form. Cell phones alert people, and there are even special analog radios that respond to the warnings, but stay silent otherwise.
Typically, people do have a few minutes of warning when these monster tornadoes are coming, but they are powerful that almost no shelter can withstand them. Small tornadoes arise and pass very quickly. The NWS often sends out warnings based on radar before they fully form, but they are inherently unpredictable. I was near a small tornado once, I was sitting outside on a porch enjoying the storm, and there were only a few seconds between when rain started blowing in on me and roofs blowing off off houses 200 yards away.
techleopard t1_jdnwbpa wrote
The problem is that those warnings are SO common that they are highly disruptive if people were to just drop everything and "seek shelter." It's not like, "Oh, I guess I won't go shopping today, I can stay in cuz I have basement." There's nowhere to go, so to properly plan, you're looking at literally packing up and checking into a hotel. Ain't nobody got the time or money for that.
These tornados always hit at night, too. You can't exactly find an excuse to suddenly go to Walmart at 2am, because Walmart isn't even open anymore.
I've driven 20 miles to wait out a particularly nasty-sounding warning before and the only place I could find was a hospital, and they chewed me out for trying to stay there when I didn't have anything medically wrong with me. The only reason they let us stay there for a few hours was because I had a kid with me who already had PTSD from these tornados and the MOMENT he overheard the ER lady telling us we couldn't stay he started hyperventilating and having a complete breakdown right there in the hallway.
3OrangeWhip t1_jdm3tsx wrote
Best case, you might get a 13 minute warning, and that’s much improved from 40-50 years ago.
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You can get anywhere from five minutes warning to about half an hour.
A big problem is that these things are hard to pinpoint. You can be in the general path of the storm but have the dangerous winds happen six blocks over from where you live.
Whind_Soull t1_jdmsfyj wrote
I've always said that it's like artillery in a war. You may have warning that your area may be targeted, but whether (weather?) or not a shell is going to hit you personally is really hard to forecast and has very little warning.
goldfinger1906 t1_jdn33vx wrote
Yep. It can take out every house on a block but just suddenly jump and skip over one, then touch back down and destroy the neighbor’s house. I’ve even seen one come south along the interstate, then jump to the other side, touch down and go back north.
PmadFlyer t1_jdnfscw wrote
Unrelated but it blew my mind as a kid when you'd see road guardrail wrapped around trees and houses ripped apart. Simultaneously you'd have a kitchen with two walls remaining and all the bottles would be standing up on the counter unmoved with the paper towel still on the holder. Wind in a tornado defies logic.
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icantsurf t1_jdm4edb wrote
This one had plenty of warning for anyone who was seeking it, making the warning actually heard is the hard part. The storm tracked close to 100 miles with a powerful tornado down for most of that time. One issue with this area is that it resides in a radar hole. Weather radars are tilted very slightly to clear obstacles so the further away you are from the site, the higher and less accurate the radar returns are. A historic tornado formed in an area that meteorologists can't see well.
Appropriate_Tip_8852 t1_jdmio8m wrote
I was asleep when it hit me. Didn't know it until it was literally right on top of me. At that point I knew pretty quickly what was happening. I learned that the alarms never triggered that day.
that1LPdood t1_jdmikwo wrote
I live in the Midwest, smack dab in tornado alley — so I can’t give insight about Mississippi.
But where I live, we will usually get a number of hours of warning that a storm capable of creating tornados is coming. So we have kind of a general awareness that tornado-friendly conditions are coming. Depending on how the storm goes, different areas or counties can be classified as “Tornado Watch” (be aware) or “Tornado Warning” (a tornado has been confirmed via visual sighting).
If there’s a Tornado Warning, the news will usually tell you where it is, where it’s seen heading. You may only get 5-10 minutes of warning if the tornado is coming toward you — every town also has warning sirens that will sound. That means you should take shelter immediately — basement, interior closet or bathroom, etc.
SO: You may be aware that the conditions exist for a tornado, but if one forms, you could potentially have only a number of minutes to react.
KP_Wrath t1_jdm5dlx wrote
There’s warning in the sense that “it can happen.” There was a moderate issued with a significant severe chance. For a tornado, that means there’s a 15% chance of a tornado within 25 miles of a given point, and a 10% chance (or more) that the tornado will be EF2 or higher (strong to intense). For an area that big, there were almost certainly going to be tornadoes, including 1 or 2 significant tornadoes. Question then becomes where do they happen? In this case, they fit pretty neatly in the moderate area aside from whatever shakes out of Florence, AL. That was the enhanced area. As others have said, not everyone has access to a shelter. In my case, I watched a movie while it did whatever it was going to do.
Tl;Dr: there’s warning in the sense of “it’s going to happen somewhere and it’s probably going to be strong or intense in an area or two. There is no “it’s going to happen HERE; it’s going to be THIS INTENSE.”
Starion_Dorifuto t1_jdntwbp wrote
I live in Arkansas and there have been weeks where there was a tornado touching down in my county EVERY NIGHT for a week. We try to be careful, but you can't just stay up to watch the weather closely for that long. And even if we were about to get hit, we really have nowhere to go. By the time the sirens are going off, you're too late to drive to a shelter.
PM_ME_UR__UPVOTE t1_jdmfjpu wrote
I blame the alert system for this shit. I live in Mississippi and they will sound the alarm for nearly anything in your county. The weather men act like any storm is the end of the world. After going through it like 100 times you stop caring and just ignore it. They need to stop overreacting to any storm and only do alerts when actually threats are going to happen.
For instance my tornado siren will go off if their is literally any detection of debress in the air in any part of my county. So I will get alert for a false alarm like 50 miles away. That shit is getting people killed because no one takes the siren serious now.
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A couple of people posted videos on Twitter, apparently, it went 100 miles on the ground and they said it was about two miles wide
https://twitter.com/i/status/1639487356053991424
https://twitter.com/i/status/1639500757526515712
mokutou t1_jdlqui4 wrote
Fyi the first link is to a video that is of a tornado that hit previously in Alabama. It’s not the twister that pretty much deleted Amory.
Jenipherocious t1_jdlxz01 wrote
The youtube weather channel Ryan Hall, Y'all was doing live stream coverage of the storms last night after tracking its development for several days. The towns of Rolling Fork and Silver Spring were practically obliterated and the images the storm chasers were sending in just minutes after the tornado passed are devastating. So many small communities were directly hit and the radar and satellite data was showing the debris field as high as 30,000ft up in the air and spreading over almost half the state.
smokey9886 t1_jdmk9dc wrote
I discovered that guy about a month ago. Pretty cool thing he is doing.
Prayers/Positive energy for all involved.
WelfareBear t1_jdnzlyy wrote
Your prayers clearly haven’t helped
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TealSeam6 t1_jdmtd2c wrote
The Mississippi delta counties generally vote democrat, and these are some of the poorest counties in the entire US. Terrible take
polkjamespolk t1_jdmui4v wrote
I've said it before, but compassion is Dead. The idea that "these people vote wrong and therefore don't deserve to be helped" is appalling.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmxotb wrote
Agreed, IDK if this is because of trump, or its just been growing over the years, but people are fucking dead, their lives uprooted and ruined because of a terrible tragic event. Then their are redditors who cant see past it being the south to even offer a momentary thought of compassion, and sadness for the victims.
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sirbissel t1_jdn8e2f wrote
I think it's more "people vote against this for other people, but once it's happening to them expect help"
polkjamespolk t1_jdncps4 wrote
You know how every one of those people injured, killed, or made homeless by a tornado voted? Sounds to me like you just want to validate your hatred and disdain for people whose value you don't acknowledge.
sirbissel t1_jdne325 wrote
You know that you can explain something without agreeing with it, right?
polkjamespolk t1_jdng0oy wrote
I'm sorry. I didn't and still don't believe you're just explaining something you aren't asserting as fact.
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goofzilla t1_jdmzyf5 wrote
So the government of Mississippi will give our tax dollars to Brett Favre instead of helping the people who need it most?
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Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmuidx wrote
AGreed, What a fucking asshole. People are fucking dead not some 24 hours later, and some armchair asshole has to make a pointless comment.
Keylime29 t1_jdn5rea wrote
You make a good point. But I think that person’s actually referring to the republican politicians that are in charge asking for the money but at the same time, denying that disaster assistance money to other states etc.
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Ssouthpaw t1_jdmxdoe wrote
The population of Rolling Fork has a median household income of 37k, a 16% poverty rate and is 80% black. These are poor people dealing with a disaster.
Maybe try having some compassion instead of just being judgy (kind of ironic isn't it?)
shroudedinveil t1_jdn4orz wrote
People like them don't give a fuck. They see the world in very binary terms. Just because the state as a whole votes for a party, doesn't mean there aren't areas in the state that absolutely hate the ruling party. Rolling Fork is gonna be one of those areas.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmucwy wrote
How about we not be total shitbags, and make frivolous comments, about politics? People are fucking dead here, show a modicum of respect for the families of the lost loved ones.
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mdlinc t1_jdlkhbj wrote
But States rights...to claim federal funds while bitching about federal interference. Sounds about right. To then be abused by rich biz and local fucks with $1 trickled down the pee pee spout. NO abiortion, gay, liberal, Trans, drag queens and cross dressing people need NOT apply. Oy yeh black and Hispanic or certainly psy<ì lleagal residents.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdn2bah wrote
Not even relevant dude... People are fucking dead, show a bit of fucking compassion for the dead, and the families who have had their lives ruined, and ripped apart figuratively, and literally.
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Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmu84n wrote
oohhhh mannn, thats scary as fuck, just seeing the outline of that thing in the lightning. Reminds me of the one from Nashville a few years ago, where it was similar, all you saw was the V shape and that was it.
AngriestManinWestTX t1_jdmwi65 wrote
The eeriest tornado footage I've seen was caught by a doorbell camera during the December 2021 outbreak near the town of Mayfield which was devastated by the tornado caught here. It's scary as hell.
I imagine these tornadoes from last night's tornadoes will be as bad if not worse.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdmx8ht wrote
Thats fucking wicked!! Even moreso the car just casually driving, not even noticing the tornado probably.
AngriestManinWestTX t1_jdn2l58 wrote
Yeah there was a lot of wicked footage from that night.
I'm sure there'll be lots of similar footage that comes out from these tornadoes in the following days. Doorbell cameras and everything else have made it much easier for footage like this to be passively captured and discovered after the fact.
Grim-Cheetah t1_jdogsf4 wrote
I drove straight through this storm system yesterday. I knew things were going to be no bueno after popping through one weaker cell on the edge. The line had a few scuds here and there, and a massive tail cloud. Then I spotted spotters.
It was wave after wave of heavy down pours and lightning. I pulled off once when it started raining sideways to give that cell a chance to move through. It was just a wall of water. You couldn’t see anything except water and lightning. Pulling up my weather app, it looked like I was going to be in the clear, so I kept going like a fool. There was a semi jack knifed in the median and a few miles up one half tipped off on the side of the interstate.
Then things got calm. Lightning like mad and that ozone smell. I was going to pull off and wait out the next wave of rain, but the exit was already lined with other motorists and pitch black, so I decided to hunker down under the next overpass/bridge (this is not a good idea in a tornado situation and if I had known, I would NOT have sheltered under there and I should have known better seeing the storm line earlier. App only said there was a watch in effect and a thunderstorm warning, so in my head, nbd I’ve been through that before.) A semi pulled off behind me. I took a quick look at radar and boom my phone and radio are both screaming tornado warning take shelter at me. Grabbed my dog, jumped out, started to head up under the overpass in my panic. Had a moment of clarity that was the most dangerous thing I could do, and started to head over to the swampy ditch to get low. Trucker jumped out grabbed my dog, hauled my ass up into the cab and threw himself over us before I had a chance to become a swamp hag. It didn’t pass directly over us, but ran parallel.
I don’t know who that truck driver was, I didn’t get his name, but dude…thank you, again. We were both shook as hell. I’m still shook. Adventure Dog is fine and a brave mofo. My boots stink because I stepped in dead raccoon mush, so my car now also smells of dead raccoon. If anyone knows how to get dead raccoon smell out of vehicle rugs, let me know. The radio weather person said it was headed northeast. I continued south through the storms but it was rain and some lightning. Nothing like on the approach.
Nighttime tornadoes are something I’ve always been terrified at the idea of. I’ve been in plenty of tornado warnings up north, strong thunderstorms, ridden out hurricanes, driven in a blizzard; I’ve never been scared or affected like this. New fear unlocked: nighttime tornadoes on the interstate in the middle of nowhere. It’s gonna take me a few days to process/get it all out of my system. I saw the news this morning and I went and threw up. I keep crying on and off. That’ll pass, no big deal. I know things could have ended up MUCH worse for me though, and seeing the destruction and devastation this thing left… fuck, man. I feel like I need to take another week off of work (I’m headed home, I was on vacation) and go DO something to help instead of laying in my hotel room.
TheRealDudeMitch t1_jdp9u7m wrote
Take that week off. I haven’t been hit by a tornado, but I recently experienced a life threatening traumatic event. Shit will fuck you up. Take the time off and just breath
Grim-Cheetah t1_jdpcajg wrote
Solid advice I’m definitely going to be following. Thank you for that.
Fit_Serve726 t1_jdms2a6 wrote
You can see the thing forming on radar too as clear as day. Its insane!!
Matzah_Rella t1_jdmkkkj wrote
Tornado Alley is shifting eastward.
LionsLoseAgain t1_jdmt3s7 wrote
Alabama and Mississippi are known as Dixie Alley. Bama is one of the only places on earth that has two tornado seasons.
Matzah_Rella t1_jdmxago wrote
Never knew that. I guess the people downvoting me are upset Kansans.
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shady_ostrich t1_jdm1o73 wrote
Sure, you can move anywhere if you have the money. Mississippi is one of the poorest states, not just in finances, but education, etc. So picking up and moving elsewhere isn't so easy. Generational poverty is hard to climb out of.
supboy1 t1_jdm51q1 wrote
It is hard, I joined the military to get myself out but I also know there are numerous applicants that are physically fit but could not pass the medical screening.
sunsetcrasher t1_jdm64at wrote
My dad also joined the military to get out of poverty in Mississippi. His brothers didn’t and a couple still live in a sharecropper’s shack on the family property, the rest in trailers. They have no money to move.
JMccovery t1_jdm29l7 wrote
That's a large number of people that would have to move.
Tornado Alley - Wikipedia.
hananobira t1_jdm507x wrote
Move west - earthquakes and fires, expensive
Move north - blizzards, also freezing my toes off eight months of the year
Move east - hurricanes, expensive
Move south - Mexico
Hurricanes, earthquakes, and fires damage everything across a wide area, but tornadoes are so slender that the odds of one hitting me personally are pretty low. I’m safer where I am.
syzygialchaos t1_jdm94aa wrote
Tornados can hit anywhere. One hit near Los Angeles this week. You can’t escape Mother Nature, she’s everywhere.
bonyponyride t1_jdm5y6t wrote
The area of the US that is prone to tornados is huge, all the way from the Rockies to the East Coast. There are a few areas that are even more prone to tornados, including Tornado Alley and Dixie Alley, but that's still a huge area. The chance of being impacted directly by a tornado is incredibly small, and most people live their entire lives without being hit by one. Of course, if you do get hit by one, it's absolutely devastating.
weedful_things t1_jdm9v82 wrote
Why do people live in California where there might be an earthquake or why do they live in norther states where you might die in a snowstorm? Fun fact: more people die from winter weather reasons than die from tornados. I guess my point is that you have to live somewhere.
icantsurf t1_jdm5u4w wrote
Basically anywhere East of the Rockies is a legitimate threat for tornados in the US. Even in the more prone areas like OKC or the so called "Dixie Alley" in the Southern US, tornados are extremely localized events. This severe event had over 6 million people in the highest level of severe danger and maybe 15k ended up being in cities directly impacted by the storm. Of all the reasons not to live in a particular area, tornados should not be a huge factor IMO.
weedful_things t1_jdma27o wrote
Didn't a tornado occur in California just in the past couple weeks?
icantsurf t1_jdmakpc wrote
Yeah, I think it was an EF1. Good reminder that tornados can happen anywhere.
polkjamespolk t1_jdm3w4a wrote
You can move wherever you want. Tornados still aren't frequent enough to make that a priority in most people's minds. I have family in Oklahoma. There are tornadic storms every year, but none have affected any of them directly.
Rikula t1_jdmfjwx wrote
Why do people live in hurricane or fire prone areas? Every part of the US gets impacted by bad weather at some point.
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I notice a distinct lack of “gods punishing them because of homosexuality” when these disasters hit southern states.
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Dancanadaboi t1_jdm62n5 wrote
Could still be though right? /S. Hard /s please lol.
neiluj t1_jdn3r4f wrote
Huh interesting I wonder where the town went
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What about a very low, like 2 foot high, shelter? Possible even with high water table.
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Worried_Drama_8582 t1_jdm5rjw wrote
Even if we switch to 100% green energy this stuff will continue and be more catastrophic. We can't stop mother nature unfortunately.
Mammoth_Sized t1_jdmhbma wrote
You can’t stop Mother Nature, completely agree, but the road to complete disaster is 100 miles long, would you rather go full throttle down that road and hit disaster really soon, or tap the brakes and travel slower, giving people, scientists, businesses a chance to make that road longer through new research and inventions? Tapping the brakes is like doing what we can now to ease the rate of climate change.
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ThatGuy798 t1_jdloa87 wrote
Its not that mobile homes attract tornadoes its that they are not built the same way a normal home is. They're "mobile" so they don't have a permanent concrete foundation to anchor to and generally are made of much lighter materials that do not hold up as well.
swing_axle t1_jdll8v4 wrote
My guess is a combo of mobile home parks tending to be in shitty areas that are known tornado flyways (the same way they're often in flood basins), along with taking more damage because they lack strong foundations, which gets them more attention when they are hit.
Rikula t1_jdmfszw wrote
Dixie alley has more mobile homes than most part is the US because it's what people can afford here. There just happen to also be a lot of tornados in the region with the frequency increasing over time as the traditional area for tornado alley shifts east.
MajesticOuting t1_jdli19z wrote
Growing up in Mississippi we always had a lot of tornados but recent years it seems like they are getting more than ever because of climate change historically they average 43 a year but they have been 70+ a year for years now.