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Kracus t1_jdwjete wrote

Reply to comment by Zixinus in Hungary ratifies Finland's Nato bid by gfghfhgfhfcvb

Meh, you can't really quote Putin on that kind of stuff because it's all bullshit to begin with. I can't logically believe Putin thinks NATO is going to invade Russia, at least not prior to him starting his war in Ukraine. His excuses for the war like NATO expansion or Nazi Ukrainians is all bullshit. He wants those resources and he wants to control the bottle necks into Russia. After the USSR collapse they lost so much population it set them back so hard they're still feeling it today.

Frankly, if their government wasn't so corrupt and they'd bothered to actually promote family and a more democratic government they'd probably be doing a lot better but instead they decided to go with an oligarchy and slowly trying to invade countries that left the USSR to recapture both, the population, and the borders they once controlled.

Now Putin is at the point where he fucked up and is desperately trying to unfuck his situation and it's not working. Hence why nukes are being shipped to Belarus. Come spring we're going to see how this is going to play out long term and I suspect it's not going to be in Russia's favor and the likelihood of tactical nukes being deployed is going to be much more likely.

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DonutsPowerHappiness t1_jdwlnje wrote

The rhetoric matters, especially about invading Russia, because of the territory Russia annexed. They now believe it to be theirs by right, so liberating it for Ukraine is sold to Russians as Russia being invaded.

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Kracus t1_jdwnbr5 wrote

Well that tracks with all the other fantasies he's using to scapegoat this invasion.

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Zixinus t1_jdwpcxs wrote

You are correct but this is the official line and what is being sold to the Russian population. Russian population hears about Putin stopping NATO expansion and NATO expansion happening anyway, what do they think? Putin is weak and losing his grip. That's not good for Putin's power, which is built on his strong-man image. Nothing can destroy a strong-man image than losing a war he thought he'd win in a week.

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CaptainAxiomatic t1_je0bz70 wrote

> I can't logically believe Putin thinks NATO is going to invade Russia

NATO won't invade Russia, NATO will contain Russia.

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