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[deleted] t1_jd48fby wrote

Reply to comment by Ass-Packer in 2 Illinois teens on spring break killed in a sledding accident at Colorado's Copper Mountain | CNN by Lampwickhu

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DoctFaustus t1_jd4gwgy wrote

That is not true. They can, and do, restrict access. It is completely up to the lease holder whether or not they allow uphill access. And that's USFS land. Some areas allow it, some do not. And typically those that do have some restrictions. For very good reasons too. They do not want anyone climbing up at night while they are trying to groom the slopes, for example.

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Donald-Pump t1_jd4dntl wrote

I definitely got a trespassing ticket in my youth for trying to dig a quarter pipe / hip into a bank on the side of a run after the mountain had closed for the year.

Fortunately, I was employed by that mountain a couple years later, so when we build that jump again we got snowmobile tow ins.

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baconperogies t1_jd4ab8w wrote

Is this true for all resorts? Is it not private property?

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crs8975 t1_jd4fhxo wrote

Depends. Some resorts do require you to have an uphill pass

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Discombobulated_Art8 t1_jd4imwj wrote

I think most resorts do. I'm fairly sure a decent amount of Winter Park is located on National Forest lands and they require an uphill pass for riders that want to "skip" the lift line and hike up the mountain instead.

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jam3d t1_jd4ctmk wrote

Lift ticket only covers lifts, not access to the publicly owned land, which a lot of resorts are built on.

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absonom t1_jd4dgx2 wrote

A large amount of ski resorts in the US operate on public land and lease it from the federal government.

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89141 t1_jd4j21w wrote

Yes, unless they are private.

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fatkidseatcake t1_jd50s5v wrote

For the most part I think it is. I learned this in the fall when I was running some trails and ended up coming up on the top of a lift in Park City and thought I was trespassing. But apparently if you can get up there whether on skis or on foot you can do it all. I guess what you’re paying for is the lift and all other transportation services.

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RE1SY t1_jd5v9k7 wrote

Makes sense it is called a "lift" ticket I suppose haha. I can't imagine trekking uphill that long must be an insane workout. Cool though at the same time.

Edit: where do you put your board/skis?

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NotShey t1_jd60lok wrote

I don't think the guy you were replying to was skiing, he was just hiking. But generally speaking, if you are hiking to ski, you put regular boots on, and if the hike is any significant distance, you get a backpack to put your ski boots in and lash your skis to them. For really short hikes (like a few hundred feet) you can just throw everything over your shoulder, and even hike in your ski boots, but for anything longer a backpack is highly recommended. Depending on the terrain, snow shoes or spikes can be useful.

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fatkidseatcake t1_jd7s9jk wrote

Exactly. Or you can even skin up the mountain and ski down. Which is traditionally what a lot of people do up here anyways for a ski tour day.

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zzyul t1_jd6lqbu wrote

Copper’s trails are located in a national forest. Last time I was there they made it pretty clear that you could get in trouble for smoking weed while skiing since it is still illegal federally and you were on federal land.

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pspahn t1_jd6q834 wrote

No it's not true. This is some kind of urban legend that Texans tell each other after they get back from a ski trip.

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Ass-Packer t1_jd4cpgb wrote

You still have to have an uphill access pass and must be skiing/snowboarding. The uphill access closes after 10 as well.

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Fishfisherton t1_jd4cxzv wrote

I think this is ASTERISK the property has to be on public land, which quite a few of Colorado's resorts are.

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cboogie t1_jd4ban4 wrote

That sounds like a nightmare of an insurance policy.

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EbbyRed t1_jd4hkua wrote

It's not, that's why it works. The lift to access federal public land is what you are paying for. It's just like going on a hike in a national forest.

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ComplexPast t1_jd4wwlg wrote

Not if you interrupt operations necessary to their business. Even if they're on public lands. For example, if you're trying to ski down slopes and they're out there doing avalanche control work or grooming, you don't have the right to be there.

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