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dogwoodcat t1_iu5py3m wrote
I wonder if he had dementia at the end, there have been a few cases where people lived frugally because they had no understanding of, or simply forgot that they had money.
Use_this_1 t1_iu5q3ti wrote
He must have grown up in one fucked up home, he had 6 siblings and NONE of them had children. After the taxes are taken out the 119 distant relatives will still get a nice little sum of money that they weren't expecting.
tauntonlake t1_iu5qy8f wrote
Damn. That money could have helped some needy charities, at the very least, if you didn't want to specifically leave it to family...
I wonder what his story was.
imregrettingthis t1_iu5wpot wrote
It will help 119 relatives. That’s not so bad.
JenMacAllister t1_iu5x345 wrote
If they are anything like my relatives, there will be many happy crack dealers.
RoboticKittenMeow t1_iu5xpuj wrote
Government - OMNOMNOMNOMNOM
AnimatronicSlothEyes t1_iu5y70a wrote
Funniest thing I've read today. Thank you.
RoboticKittenMeow t1_iu5z27g wrote
You are very welcome, reddit stranger. I hope you have a good weekend!
AnimatronicSlothEyes t1_iu5zu7f wrote
And you as well.
peon2 t1_iu601tw wrote
Man I'd cry tears of joy if I got a $60,000 check in the mail.
Well actually I'd probably assume it's a scam and throw it out, but ya know.
JackMitcham t1_iu607oa wrote
I mean, the government has more of a claim to this money than random people who had never heard of him that happened to share ancestors.
I mean if we go back far enough, we're all related to him. We all share a common ancestor.
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shurfire t1_iu60s6l wrote
Supporting local businesses
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peon2 t1_iu60ynq wrote
Damn that's cool. If you don't mind my asking how much was it?
BandwagonFanAccount t1_iu61evi wrote
Government getting anything from estates is one of the biggest piles of bullshit in a country heaped full of it.
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taez555 t1_iu61qs7 wrote
"Hey my main man, you get big money, some of 60.000,00$$!!! You just wire us 3.000 thousand us america dollar to pay taxes and we send you big money some."
/s
But seriously, don't do that.
Prestigious-Maddogg t1_iu61wek wrote
You would get letters,you would have to sign beforehand from a probate lawyer. Source:I had some guy in my family I never met and he had no kids/no will
Commotion t1_iu62msj wrote
How exactly is it bullshit? I don’t understand your perspective at all.
ChairmanLaParka t1_iu62tbe wrote
Never hurts to check on the validity of money sent to you.
Back in the pre-internet days, I had a check for $250,000 sent to me. I almost threw it away. But decided to take it to a local lawyer to verify authenticity. He did some research, found it to be legit, and told me it was safe to deposit.
Turns out a company I worked briefly for (I mean, literally maybe 6 weeks), went out of business and was paying out their remaining cash to recent employees as long as they'd been employed within the last year. I didn't recognize the sender on the envelope because it was the corporation's name, not that businesses'. What makes it even better is that I wasn't fired. I'd quit. Because I asked for time off when I was hired for 6 weeks out for a concert I wanted to go to (Metallica), and they initially approved it, but denied it when the day came. I came in to work, told them I was leaving at 6 so they needed to get someone there. No one came. So I locked it up, took the key to the shop next door (friend of the owner), and quit on the spot.
Best quarter mil I've ever earned in one day. Also the only. But the best!
EducatedCynic t1_iu6310d wrote
He didn't get a payout.
LowDownSkankyDude t1_iu636a4 wrote
Fuck. Yes.
Like I don't even care if it's true or not, cause that's such a fucking awesome story. LoL
BandwagonFanAccount t1_iu637wd wrote
The owner (that died) paid taxes on all that shit to begin with, Gvt needs to have the decency to let what that man earned get passed down instead of taking another fat slice and being a bunch of self interested greedy fucks. Little doubt they will just squander it away on some dumb shit gvt bailouts or something anyways.
Commotion t1_iu63b7d wrote
If he lives in the US, he did get a payout, in a sense, because the government ultimately answers to elected legislators.
Commotion t1_iu63mh5 wrote
Nah, inherited generational wealth shouldn’t be immune from taxes. Just like unearned investment income shouldn’t be taxed at lower rates than earned income.
It sounds like you just hate the government.
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BandwagonFanAccount t1_iu64hy4 wrote
It sounds to me, like I think paying taxes on the money you earn and the things you buy, then also continuing to pay for the continued ownership of those things is plenty. You shouldn't have to pay taxes on shit you left behind and have already spent your entire life paying taxes on.
Investment income is completely different from what I was arguing and should be taxed the same because it is still income, I'm not sure where that even entered your mind.
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neverdoneneverready t1_iu687b4 wrote
I believe you are taxed only if inheritance is over $1 million.
the_eluder t1_iu69ts6 wrote
It's over 12 million, so I don't know what taxes are being referred to in this article. I think the biggest expense the heirs have to worry about is how much the law firm in charge of distribution is going to milk them for.
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Boozeled t1_iu6gma4 wrote
I'm so disappointed that I can't remember the name but there is a very interesting podcast episode that walks through the process of someone dying without next of kin or a will. It can be such a lengthy process. I've joked about having a secret rich relative but it's interesting to learn that it actually does happen.
SenselessNoise t1_iu6hdlb wrote
hey its me ur brother
alixnaveh t1_iu6jdpx wrote
The kids might have had some genetic disorder or childhood exposure to some chemical that made them infertile. It's very strange that not one of the 6 had offspring.
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NPVT t1_iu6lyq1 wrote
Should be taxed 100%
TSL4me t1_iu6no4j wrote
Weird shit happens in retirement home relationships too. Its not unheard of for an old couple to run off and get married and die soon after, some times it's poly and LGBT relationships too. It really throws the family and estate people an unexpected curveball. Good on the old peeps for having fun though.
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Boozeled t1_iu6pqhb wrote
What a blessing for your family! I'm still trying to find the episode because it's something people don't often contemplate- how tedious that work must be.
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redditingatwork23 t1_iu6rq9w wrote
Damn and I get all giddy when I get $300 in the mail lol.
Yalay t1_iu6rsd0 wrote
Estate taxes are based on the size of the estate, not the size of an individual’s inheritance.
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poe_todd t1_iu6swlk wrote
The man died in 2016. The estate exemption was about $5.5 million.
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procrasstinating t1_iu6tiou wrote
But if you gain wealth by increases in the value of investments or real estate that you hold that isn’t taxes during your lifetime if it’s not sold. And upon death the cost basis is increased to the value at death, so your heirs will inherited it and can sell it tax free. Inheritance tax would capture those gains if the value of the estate was over $12m USD for an individual or $24m for a couple.
weedful_things t1_iu6tseo wrote
I discovered I had an unclaimed rebate check a few months ago. While searching, I noticed someone with the last name as I had several accounts totaling several hundred dollars. I found this person on Facebook and sent a message to them. I never got a reply and I am sure they thought it was some kind of scam. I tried though.
fleurgirl123 t1_iu6tsgv wrote
How wealthy was he? I didn’t think there would be taxes on it unless it was above $5 million.
procrasstinating t1_iu6tsou wrote
The estate tax limit is $4m in Illinois. $12m for Feds.
BandwagonFanAccount t1_iu6u4l1 wrote
Like I said. Just another way for the gvt to take a fat slice of what people already paid for and continued to pay taxes on all their lives.
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criticalpwnage t1_iu6vfr6 wrote
Of course, and if you manage to stay the whole night you actually get the mansion
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procrasstinating t1_iu76pc3 wrote
And my take is that many of those people have not paid taxes on those gains. So Peter Theil valued his private company at $2000 and put the shares in an IRA. 20 years later the stock is worth $5billion and sheltered from taxes. He would never pay tax on any of that gain, except for under an estate tax.
random-idiom t1_iu7d3om wrote
That's only if you leave a will and follow the rules - if you die and don't have a will a very large chunk of your estate goes poof, and then there are fees for whoever is appointed by the court to track down 'heirs' - which can include PI fees searching for people.
You do avoid the worst if you die and have a spouse - as they get everything by assumption if they are alive - but kids don't without a will the court has to do it's thing.
Junior_Builder_4340 t1_iu7dftk wrote
Is it "Stuff You Need to Know"?
Krypto_Kane t1_iu7drqi wrote
This is like a card you pull in MONOPOLY . Long lost Uncle dies and you get 60k inheritance. RIP
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EVEOpalDragon t1_iu7g3cd wrote
6 siblings with no children explains the 11 million pretty well
Boozeled t1_iu7jgf2 wrote
I thought so but it wasn't a discussion, it was interviews. I did find this article that is very similar:
Icy_Amphibian_JASMY t1_iu7mgj3 wrote
This doesn’t account for Bitcoin. So I doubt it.
bluntmanandrobin t1_iu7ru9o wrote
119 multiplied by 60,000 is 7,140,000. That’s more than half. Most isn’t going to the government. A lot is. But not most.
damnthistrafficjam t1_iu7z4sp wrote
Having bad parents has also been known to put people off procreating.
Curious_Associate904 t1_iu7z7xo wrote
Fuck, that's totally my great uncle... Haven't seen him in YEARS.
davefive t1_iu7zhua wrote
Only if Eddie Murphy is involved
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bohanmyl t1_iu8181m wrote
The real haunted part is the property taxes
ayershubble t1_iu879l2 wrote
Howard Hughes died without a will or obvious heirs… pretty sure he was worth more than this guy.
fuddykrueger t1_iu8j8lk wrote
In some states dying intestate (without a will) causes your estate to be split 50/50 with 50% going to spouse and the other 50% going to the kids (split evenly). There are different rules in each state.
For instance in Illinois, spouse gets half and kids get half (copied and pasted):
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If you have a spouse but no children, the spouse inherits everything. If you have children but no spouse, the children inherit everything. If you have a spouse and children, the spouse and the children receive half of your property each. If you have parents but no spouse, children, or siblings, your parents inherit everything. If you have siblings but no spouse, children, or parents, the siblings inherit everything. If you have parents and siblings, but no spouse or children, your property is evenly divided among each parent and each sibling. (However, if you have only one parent alive, that parent receives a double share.)
FSUalumni t1_iu8k7up wrote
You can see if you have unclaimed funds in many states online. In Florida, the website is https://fltreasurehunt.gov. I hope some of you find some money owed to you!
Billy_Likes_Music t1_iu8naj8 wrote
I got a Snapple cap that wished me good luck once.
random-idiom t1_iu8oa7z wrote
thanks - another reason why it's always a good idea to have a will :)
fuddykrueger t1_iu8zo3l wrote
Very true!
DieterVawnCunth t1_iu91y1s wrote
well, no taxes were owed on the first 5-6 million.
and of all the inheritance tax cases to get upset about you choose this one? a man who didn't even bother to make a will, and 120 distant relatives who never even heard of him?
look, in a capitalist system where the richest increasingly get richer and richer, there needs to be redistribution somehow or we're going to live in an insane cyberpunk dystopia.
you like having roads? you like having public schools? you like healthcare for the elderly? you like having your American imperial military ensuring the free flow of goods from exploited laborers?
the public coffers need to be filled.
you_need_to_stop_now t1_iu93j97 wrote
No I'm Chicago man.
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nochinzilch t1_iu9nxm5 wrote
Children are not legally responsible for their parents' debts.
FightmeLuigibestgirl t1_iu9onn4 wrote
Or the opposite.
fourfourzero t1_iu9rgj3 wrote
pretty sure there were plenty of claims to that estate.
fourfourzero t1_iu9rml4 wrote
in the US
fourfourzero t1_iu9rxwl wrote
lol take economics AND civics classes my dude. it will make you a lot less angry with your life.
BandwagonFanAccount t1_iu9u9em wrote
I enjoy my life but thank you for you for your concern. I apologize for being able to see how greedy, wasteful, and corrupt the government is.
Bison256 t1_iub07te wrote
Is this a PG, PG-13 or R haunted mansion? How much physical risk a there?
Standard_Wooden_Door t1_iubdud3 wrote
Either that, or you have to blow half of it without having anything of value left over in order to get the other half.
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