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PopeHonkersVII t1_it9fdwz wrote

We are living in very stupid times. I wait for the day when things become less dumb.

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bbills91 t1_it9kvp8 wrote

One party has worked hard for 50+ years to ruin our educational system. They are doing a good job, just look how ignorant so many in this country are and how they willfully shun education/science/truth/etc

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DPool34 t1_itb4tq0 wrote

Anti-intellectualism: one of the pillars of fascism.

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substandardpoodle t1_iu4bok7 wrote

How has some zillionaire like Warren Buffet not created a bunch of free colleges?

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ZeroAfro t1_ita9h5u wrote

I mean there is lots of examples of this so I'd say it is a mature opinion. You may not be mature but doesn't mean others aren't.

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bbills91 t1_itaehag wrote

Are you trying to tell me that the GOP actually encourages education? Show me one example where they have embraced education instead of cutting funding from it? The schools my kids went to were awful compared to the ones my wife and I attended. I grew up in a blue state and live in a red one so I see the difference. My wife was a teacher years ago so I am very in tune with who does or doesn’t support education.

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thecalamitythesis t1_itbrn5u wrote

I don’t need to see the world in terms of binary tribes. Both parties are terrible. Sure, the GOP is god awful on education (as well as everything else) but even if you assume this is 100% true across the board then I still think the Dem party is equally as responsible for not articulating a competitive vision that has won more support - which should not be that hard given most people care a lot about their kids education. Blue state education outcomes are better compared to red, but blue state outcomes are still shit compared to the rest of the developed world.

I think it’s immature to frame these issues as “one party bad one party good”. Both parties suck and share equal responsibility for our problems.

Almost every teacher is a democrat if you look at global statistics in the united states and the teacher’s unions are 100% establishment democratic party supporters. Even if you make the argument republicans have ranked education on a federal level or through textbook monopolies out of Texas then don’t the dems suck by getting so easily steamrolled given they literally control the entire education system at the teacher level up through the federal bureaucracy ? have these democratic teachers unions stood in the way of meaningful reform to protect their teachers over the educational needs of the country ? It’s easy to say these republicans are stupid and mean and just want to destroy education. Nobody thinks they are the villain, including the republicans. That’s why this is not a mature opinion because you are treading a political party and it’s members like this is star wars and they are the sith. All the major cities in the US have been controlled by dems for decades. How are their inner city schools doing ?

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M4TT145 t1_itc6v8e wrote

Man, the amount of statistics you just pulled straight from your gooch….not to mention the hypocrisy.

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thecalamitythesis t1_itd4css wrote

the amount of statistics i “pulled out of my gooch” being claiming the following:

-The teacher’s unions are 100% aligned with the dems (show me the lie here)

-Almost all teachers lean liberal and if they support a political party it is the democrats (show me the lie here)

-blue state education outcomes are better than red state education outcomes (show me the lie here)

-the US has poor education outcomes compared to the rest of the developed world (show me the lie here)

-all major cities have been controlled by the dems for decades and their inner city schools are terrible (show me the lie here)

where is my hypocrisy? the thesis of my response os that both parties are equally culpable and it’s immature to attribute ANY of our political problems to a single party because that’s not how the world works or has ever worked.

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big_nothing_burger t1_it9jm2h wrote

My teacher coworker shares a portable with the nurse and that nurse is a total COVID denier. Thankfully not my school.

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Myis t1_it9leuq wrote

This pisses me off so much as a health care provider.

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big_nothing_burger t1_it9mgou wrote

This is deep into the country, the reddest red. The school almost unteaches more than teaches because reality doesn't agree with conservative nonsense.

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Myis t1_it9mydc wrote

I wish it was isolated to there but I live deep in the bluest of blue Willamette Valley of Oregon and 1/2 my coworkers are too dumb to use the degrees they earned and just do what their husbands say. Which as a woman pisses me off so bad. I guess I’m really an angry person these days.

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HardlyDecent t1_it9ubfd wrote

There's plenty to be angry about. Gotta say, especially for women.

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Myis t1_it9vh7e wrote

Yes and I’m sure you can guess where the coworkers are on abortion.

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Fun-Translator1494 t1_itanjlk wrote

Not all of the willamette valley is blue. In fact 5 miles in any direction from Portland proper is 50/50, and 15 miles from city center is reliably republican.

Suburbia is pretty much 50/50 across the country, give or take 5 percent.

Youre right to be angry, it means you’re informed, and you care. But do give yourself a break, these things are mostly out of your hands and it’s rare that you can change anyone’s mind.

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big_nothing_burger t1_itahf4j wrote

I feel you. I take pride in being an entirely self-made woman. I paid off my house already...handle all my own physical labor on my property if it's in my power to fix something. If I married into that situation I would freaking dissolve.

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Eringobraugh2021 t1_itd69ym wrote

I find that I hate people more & more. I'm not a covid denier, but I am against blanket mandates. I have lifelong chronic health issues because of a vaccine (anthrax). So, I'm hesitant about new vaccines. I'm waiting because it's what's best for me. But, I'm not going to go out & shame someone for getting the vaccine or for not wearing a mask. Your body, your choice.

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stackjr t1_ita50wg wrote

I worked IT in a hospital for a bit last year and I'm sorry to say this but the amount of nurses and doctors that we had come through our office that were flat out COVID deniers was insane. For nurses, at least, it seemed like the more educated they were the dumber they got. The LPNs were the fucking worst.

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tracyinge t1_itdd1t7 wrote

covid-deniers or anti-covid-vaxxers?

I mean, how do you work in a hospital and deny that covid is real while they're running out of ventilators over in the next wing?

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GreatAndPowerfulNixy t1_itdhe5t wrote

I took the train with someone who refused to wear a mask on the subway the entire pandemic who literally was the guy who ran inventory control on the ventilators.

Fuckface didn't even believe it was real.

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stackjr t1_itdlgxg wrote

You would be surprised, my dude.

We had two traveling nurses come in and both of them told us that COVID isn't real, what people are getting sick from is just a flu strain.

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republicanvaccine t1_itau178 wrote

Or as a literate person. Human. Being able to utilize tools…multicellular organisms…

Just generally it is pretty disappointing people be so dumb. But they do be like that.

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Yurastupidbitch t1_itcgvea wrote

Same. It infuriates me when I see other health care providers peddling bullshit especially when it comes to vaccines. They know better!

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dofffman t1_itcbjch wrote

what the heck is a portable? a laptop?

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big_nothing_burger t1_itcdjbl wrote

Lol it's one of many terms for a modular / temporary building / trailer.

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dofffman t1_itcht88 wrote

I was thinking it must be a living situation but I could not figure it out. I was thinking maybe like an efficiency.

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Bryanb337 t1_itd9tus wrote

Because education is so poorly funded in this country many schools need to use portable structures to supplement for building space.

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KinderSpirit t1_ita587o wrote

Well, whenever a anti-vaxxer covid-denier dies the world's average IQ increases. So, there's that.

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LasVegas4590 t1_itdi8rx wrote

>We are living in very stupid times.

It's even scarier when you see "smart people", like doctors with years of experience, become "stupid people"

When my son and his wife got Covid ten months ago, their long-time doctor wanted to prescribe Ivermectin. They were shocked and dismayed.

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