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Suppertime420 t1_iulkqwd wrote

Reply to comment by The1xide in 1 dead and up to 6 injured in shooting at a Halloween party in Kansas City, Kansas, police say by bonniethegamer223

It’s already happening in Texas with the no permit carry law. They have seen a huge uptick of late night drunk shootings. No more fists just pull the blick and let it bang I suppose.

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zzorga t1_iumd4dz wrote

> They have seen a huge uptick of late night drunk shootings

Have they? I'm not aware of any statistically meaningful rise in violent crime/ homicide in the other states that have adopted permitless carry.

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pegothejerk t1_iumfcvx wrote

That’s what the police are telling reporters. We wouldn’t have data yet because those laws haven’t been active for long enough.

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Wazula42 t1_iumq4d0 wrote

So far no, crime overall has not meaningfully changed. Theres just been an uptick in shootings. That's what guns do, they turn normal crime into shooting crime.

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Wazula42 t1_iunzm15 wrote

To clarify, it hasn't meaningfully changed in direct connection with guns. It's still subject to an overall upward trend, just now with more bullets.

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KDRadio1 t1_iuo6ezh wrote

There have been numerous states that have passed those laws many years ago. AZ did so as of 2010, with the gun death rate decreasing for several years afterwards.

Not really saying it’s right or whatever, but there’s not a universal correlation in all cases between constitutional carry and gun violence.

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Suppertime420 t1_iuob9cs wrote

Well in Texas there is right now so..Takeoff was just killed in Houston last night.

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KDRadio1 t1_iuoiwq0 wrote

Gasp. Yeah bad stuff happens. Point is that tying it to a change in law before the actual data comes out is a bit bold. Especially when the inverse has been true in other locations.

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Trtmfm t1_iumhgne wrote

seems like a problem that will sort itself given time.

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