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Lutoures t1_ixlkqid wrote

Reply to comment by EntertainerNo3007 in Brazil's electoral court rejects Bolsonaro election challenge by vitorgrs

Brazilian here. Maybe the US should instead stop seen "First" and "Third World" countries and start been humble enough to learn from institutional advancements beyond the countries of the Atlantic North.

Brazil has this separate electoral justice system ruling the elections since the 1930s. Until now it was basically a measure to prevent fraud on the local level and unify the electoral system across the federation.

Now it was probably the first time that it was tested as an independent power against an overreaching Executive. The fact that they successfully taunted Bolsonaro's coup aspirations is a testimony to the genius of this institution, that should be set more as an example even coming from a "third world country".

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boris_keys t1_ixn6mse wrote

Technically “first” and “third” world is an antiquated Cold War classification. “Developing” and “developed” nations is used more today.

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Lutoures t1_ixn9qtg wrote

Yes, well-remembered. Although I still dislike also this classification, as it implies that the model of development in the richer nations of Europe and North America is the model for all humanity, and the other countries are only "late" at achieving them. This is problematic for two reasons:

  1. Much of the characteristics seen as "underdevelopments" were actually set in the international system for the benefit of the richer countries.
  2. There may be more than one vision of what "development means" beyond the general well-being of people. Different countries, different cultures, different needs to be satisfied.

I still think the best option is stop using those dualistic definitions and embrace categories that recognize better the history, culture and diversity of different groups of nations.

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MurderousMaraca t1_ixmjsew wrote

Well said. Look at individual achievements and stop using outdated general classifications. All countries can and should learn from each other.

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spzcb10 t1_ixot3jg wrote

My opinion is that Brazil is not third world so….

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childishforces t1_ixtqy79 wrote

That’s not what he was suggesting. He suggested the US is operating like one.

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spzcb10 t1_iy4f1os wrote

Certainly is and will continue to.

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