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mcbelisle t1_ixuxfpr wrote

How does someone remember something 5 years ago?

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Bending_toast t1_ixuxlgj wrote

Villain in real life as well as on TV. It’s like he’s been practicing his whole life for these roles

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Showerbeerz413 t1_ixv4odl wrote

Eh. it could be true but to wait years and then file after the person has become super famous? those kinds of cases always seemed fishy to me. it could be the victim wants it to be public knowledge that the dudes a scum bag but it always felt like a ploy for money when I see these. also the case was already closed once so unless there's no evidence, it's probably nothing

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devioushooker t1_ixv7haq wrote

The article mentions sexual misconduct. Which could mean many things. I didn't see anything about rape.

"Nice try?" Impressing the comment section is not something I'm interested in.

Nice try, nice try.

"We saw what you did", you're a joke.

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JohnHwagi t1_ixvbese wrote

Why post this article?

There is no info either way except that he was accused and he denies it, so all we’re going to get is a Reddit dumpster fire referendum on whether people like this guy or not.

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DeadlyWindFromBelow t1_ixvgxbl wrote

He played a billionaire in Squid Game, so I think....this qualifies him as a method actor.

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itsmariokartwii t1_ixvqdb9 wrote

Is there actually no evidence? Or did the publishers of this article just decide like none of it worth mentioning?

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PuellaBona t1_ixvsb7a wrote

Yeah, because it's not like women are demeaned or scorned for filing sexual assault charges. Why wouldn't they immediately report it to cops that roll their eyes and patronize them for not appreciating male attention.

All those allegations against Harvey Weinstein were probably for money too.

It's almost like men don't have the slightest clue how women are treated by misogynistic assholes.

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TenWholeBees t1_ixvvdtv wrote

I actually just had a couple in regards to Nestlé and other companies who use slave labor

A good debate is a diamond in the rough on this site, but they're so great when they happen

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TenWholeBees t1_ixvww9q wrote

It wasn't about defending Nestlé. Someone made a comment that was akin to "well other companies use slave labor too" and it evolved into a very calm debate about the issues that run deep in this current political climate

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oliveorvil t1_ixw7jni wrote

Actually being charged with something is much more than a mere accusation.. plenty of people don’t get anywhere with the justice system with a simple accusation, even with evidence

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tuahla t1_ixw9zym wrote

As someone who's friend has been sexually assaulted...I don't blindly believe or disbelieve it. Let it be proven in court. Why do you just assume she has to be lying?

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TenWholeBees t1_ixwbkpm wrote

This is actually a good question

I think the best course of action is if more people actually cared. If these companies saw a decline in profits due to the hate they get, things might be able to start to change,

The problem seems to be that people just don't care or are blissfully unaware

How do you even start a real boycott if millions of people don't care / are ignorant?

Shoutout to the stocker at a store back home who heard me tell me friend about Nestlé and started talking to us about it. More real world activism by those who type online would help, I think

BRB, gonna go spend $8 to become Nestlé

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oliveorvil t1_ixwebeo wrote

This isn't a proclamation of this person's guilt.. it's saying he's charged. If people are mistaking this for him being found guilty then that's their own fault for not understanding how crime/prosecution works.

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proxyproxyomega t1_ixwfuc9 wrote

BBC is writing based on charges by the Korean law enforcement, who wouldn't have laid out the charges without any substantial reasons. there probably wouldn't be evidences, as with most sexual harassment cases, but if more women turns up, it will become a national wide interest/crisis.

Korean elders are known to be touchy (affectionate but not sexual), as was traditionally common and accepted. the country is going through a cultural transition where the older generations still behave the old ways (patriarchy, obedience, dogmatic) , where younger generations are growing up in modern standards (i.e. privacy, physical boundaries, individuality etc).

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JohnHwagi t1_ixwhxhz wrote

I’ve not claimed this actor is innocent nor guilty, nor made any comments about that specific attorney. These comments apply to the common law justice systems as a whole.

District and defense attorneys are adversarial figures, and should always be viewed with distrust due to their goals. Neither a DA nor a defense attorney is inherently interested in “justice”. They’re interested in winning their case, and only by putting those two interests against each other do we have enough information for a decision to be made by an impartial third party (the jury).

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JohnHwagi t1_ixwkp7q wrote

Yeah, but the idea of whether someone has been charged or not is meaningless in determining their guilt within common law systems. The accusation itself and the denial is the only relevant part currently. Whether there are additional accusers or a way to corroborate this accusation will be used to determine his guilt at trial. The fact that he was charged is explicitly ignored as evidence for obvious reasons.

On the topic of prosecutors being general fuckups, Bill Cosby was not charged during multiple investigations before he was first brought to trial. Ray Rice punched a woman in an elevator on a recoding that prosecutors had, and they did not press charges until public outcry forced them to much later. Given that these decisions are often so obviously wrong, in favor of and against defendants, we should not give the decisions made at these offices credence.

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oliveorvil t1_ixwl5dy wrote

It definitely has bearing on whether they're actually guilty lol you can't be found guilty if you aren't charged with a crime in the first place.. but that doesn't mean they're guilty, it's just the first step. They still are innocent until proven guilty. It's kind of hard to tell what you're arguing for here.. are you saying it shouldn't be reported when someone is charged? or that people need to stop conflating the two?

The problem with not reporting when someone is charged is that there is a nonzero amount of people out on bail that are in fact guilty.. so the public would deserve to know. This is a scenario where it's a lot of gray area and there's no clean solution that balances both justice and liberty (or in this case the liberty of the person charged with the liberties of the public around them).. I think your logic is also based on the false pretense that if you're innocent of a crime that a state has charged you with, then you're shit out of luck regardless of whether you're found innocent or guilty which isn't true.. People have the right to use the court to sue as well.

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Lubadbitches t1_ixwt535 wrote

If you have blocked the memories of your bad mistakes, you wouldn’t have anxiety about them.

Telling a man/woman to “block the memory” of sexual misconduct is insanely insensitive and a straight up Asperger’s thing to say. It wasn’t a mistake they made, they had no control over whether it happened or not.

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mcbelisle t1_ixx0epb wrote

You would too. Its called brain fog. I live with it all my life. I have no motivation to do anything except to watch tv or go online. And i was diagnosed with aspergers. Had an issue yesterday where previously i had used my phone for 2fa on 1 account but lost access to email so created another. So cant use service. I cant let it bother me.

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HelpStatistician t1_ixxflt6 wrote

Korean elders are used to a thriving prostitution and borderline accepted mistress culture, they are not AT ALL touchy in an affections way to the opposite sex. That's why things like "manner hands" are so popular.

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PartyLikeAByzantine t1_ixxn65p wrote

>If a DA or their prosecutors could be trusted, we would not need to have jury trials.

I know you're quoting someone else, but that's beyond horseshit. It is a complete misunderstanding of trials. It is possible (indeed, common) to have an honest dispute of the facts of a case. That is the purpose of a jury: to be neutral, independent arbiters of facts. That is why civil suits (which usually do not involve the state as a litigant) also go to jury trial.

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LieutenantBrainz t1_ixym4qm wrote

Didn’t he just hold a reporters hand or something? Whoever’s hand he held blowing this shit up

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DownvoteDaemon t1_ixyxek7 wrote

I get your point mam, but people are rarely just randomly charged with sexual misconduct or assault for no reason. It's scary the number of platonic women friends I know who have gone through sexual assault.

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DownvoteDaemon t1_ixyxnlo wrote

For all we know she went through therapy and is just now comfortable speaking out about her assault. Probably has nothing to do with the guys money or fame, but I hope she gets some if he is guilty.

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BrutusGregori t1_iy1hs6f wrote

An alleged crime which happened in 2017.

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