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N8CCRG t1_j1qy24g wrote

>The leader of Alberta’s provincial government, Danielle Smith, justified her support for the bill by saying, “It’s not like Ottawa is a national government,” a conclusion that is widely disputed by constitutional experts.

This is just pure comedy gold. Well done writers.

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TwilitSky t1_j1r1z6s wrote

It's insane these people have any power to write laws at all. They don't even know what a government is.

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imaconnect4guy t1_j1sjyzt wrote

"Widely disputed" or as everyone understands it, completely wrong.

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callmegecko t1_j1xcphg wrote

Someone needs to call Quebec and learn some history

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UnobviousDiver t1_j1qwruu wrote

Conservative Canadians are just as dumb as conservative Americans, which is a really low bar.

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AnarchyinGroland t1_j1rnstc wrote

>are just as dumb as conservative Americans, which is a really low bar.

seeing them calling Trudeau "Communist" or "Nazi" is about as dumb that those people who promised us death camps when Obama was elected

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[deleted] t1_j1s985z wrote

There are actually Canadian magas/trumpies. Let that sink in.

Not a CULT at all, no siree.....^(/s)

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AnarchyinGroland t1_j1s9feu wrote

>There are actually FRENCHCanadian magas/trumpies. Let that sink in.

I had to see one, because I would not have guessed it.

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saltyhasp t1_j1ruf68 wrote

I wonder if they have this sovereign citizen stuff too. A wink and a twirl and a bit of pixie dust and suddenly laws do not apply somehow.

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[deleted] t1_j1s4fvz wrote

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TheLizardKing89 t1_j1sd68s wrote

The queen of Canada died in September.

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BangBangControl t1_j1t05j4 wrote

Wrong one. That was the real one.

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robbzilla t1_j1sq1ml wrote

Of COVID?

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tayroarsmash t1_j1u9tbi wrote

He’s referring to Queen Elizabeth who was the Queen of Canada until she died and now Chuck is the King of England.

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robbzilla t1_j1v1kju wrote

When did Elizabeth say people didn't need to follow COVID rules?

Edit: I was taking the response literally that the guy had heard of the crazy queen of Canada, not Elizabeth II.

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tayroarsmash t1_j1v2b31 wrote

She didn’t. They’re talking about two different people. The first person mentioned a person who is claiming to be the Queen of Canada which isn’t an actual thing but the person is real and doing that and she’s a figure in Conspiracy Theory circles and she does engage in antivax conspiracy. The second person was referring to Queen Elizabeth as a bit because technically English monarchs are still very loosely and purely symbolically are the monarchs of Canada. It was a joke about how technically the lady who is claiming to be Queen of Canada is quickly probably wrong because the “Queen of Canada” died in September because if we were giving that title to anyone it’d have been Elizabeth.

Reflecting on all this shit I just said I think I’m chronically online. My brain is broken by the nonsense happening in the world, holy shit.

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robbzilla t1_j1vk8u5 wrote

Yeah, the lightbulb went on after you splained it. I was being ironic, saying that the loonie might have died of COVID, I wasn't dissing the Queen.

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[deleted] t1_j1vhp43 wrote

King Charles III is also the King of Canada.

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_Bob_A_Feet_ t1_j1s8xml wrote

Well, the answer is simple. Whomever has the most guns makes the rules.

Applied in the high seas and still applies today.

Not that I’m happy about it, but that would sure shut up those SovCit folks.

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laconicflow t1_j1u2gaj wrote

Violence is the thing that underpins all societies. Things get bad, society can shoot people. That's what cops are. The unspoken threat for seriously breaking the law is, get taken to prison, or shot.

So, you don't have to own the guns, just back a state that does.

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CollectibleHam t1_j1t55yo wrote

We do, especially in Alberta, although the term "freemen on the land" is the more commonly used title for those dorks.

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reallygoodbee t1_j203dmr wrote

I'm Canadian. I do security. I worked at the mall for a while.

And yes, we do have that nonsense up here.

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DumSpiroSpero3 t1_j1tiah3 wrote

The funniest thing is that they get a lot of their craziness imported from online content mills. There’s conservative Canadians who talk about their First and Second Amendment rights lol

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HelpStatistician t1_j1smuwe wrote

I'm convinced there's some sort of poisoning in the water in Alberta that makes people there genuinely stupider. Everyone who moved there and came back seemed to be suffering from like lead poisoning or something. With the prion disease outbreaks on the east coast and Ford in Ontario... it doesn't bode well for Canada...

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lionhart280 t1_j1wxji3 wrote

> I'm convinced there's some sort of poisoning in the water in Alberta that makes people there genuinely stupider.

Its called subsidized oil conglomerates having a chokehold of our provincial government.

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justforthearticles20 t1_j1v764a wrote

A lot of Canadian Conservatives are so stupid that they invoke US Constitutional Rights to defend their not protected in Canada actions.

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Levonorgestrelfairy1 t1_j1rfuw1 wrote

Even dumber. There has been rumblings from the west coast altright about trying to create new states out of the red areas of the dem ones but they never actually did it.

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InfectedByEli t1_j1u72hf wrote

Those new red states would have a massive economic crash without the blue areas carrying them.

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>We're finally free of those stupid Libs with their book learnin' and their fancy electric automobiles.

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>Hey, what happened to my gubment subsidy?

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p001b0y t1_j1rsiml wrote

Conservatives in the USA: “Actually, we are all technically Americans but we love matching wits with Canadia! Now, regarding Greenland. We are prepared to trade you Seal Island for it. It comes with a lighthouse! You don’t need to agree. I’m clairvoyant and already know your answer!” /s

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spaceagefox t1_j1zj2ad wrote

conservatives are just dumb, that's what happens when society removes natural selection and let people with delusional ideals gain power

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Outrageous_Heat_4529 t1_j1sk7rp wrote

Hold on here, let’s remember to the extreme liberals in Quebec, are also on the fence with National Sovereignty. You could say that Canada has some serious issues regarding the future of its federal powers yes?

Or, is this just a waste of time…

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Bootfullofrightarms t1_j1qw0nq wrote

that's not how federal laws work.

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buzzhavoc t1_j1rlkib wrote

Oh really, care to share a single example my making stuff up because why not friend?

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MrFuzzyPaw t1_j1qx14r wrote

Albertan here:

FUCK the UCP. We are Canadian. You are traitors.

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YamburglarHelper t1_j1r4f1v wrote

Also can people stop lumping shit together and saying “Western Canada”? BC isn’t this stupid.

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Classic_Blueberry973 t1_j1r4lah wrote

Except for the Albertans who move there and create conservative voting areas.

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Publius82 t1_j1rbfvl wrote

Stupid southern American here:

So Alberta = Alabama with snow?

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jschubart t1_j1rc58s wrote

Closer to Texas. Lots of oil money.

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HaloGuy381 t1_j1rnlty wrote

Presumably a lot fewer heavily armed bigots chomping at the bit for a civil war, though.

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elephantinegrace t1_j1s24b0 wrote

Back in university, my friends and I played this game called “Alberta or Kentucky,” where we send each other images had to guess…well, whether they were from Alberta or Kentucky. (Eventually this became more like “American or not.”) My favourite one was an image of a shirtless man standing in front of a trailer with a rifle in each hand and a Confederate flag painted on his chest. IIRC he was from Quebec.

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Fappy_as_a_Clam t1_j1rikl6 wrote

Alberta is like Montana but with Texas oil money.

You should visit if you get a chance, its beautiful and does the American West better than the American West.

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lionhart280 t1_j1wxm8z wrote

Closer to Texas, we have oil and cows and farms mostly.

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1337sparks t1_j1sp2hq wrote

Any time I've brought this up, someone points out that northern bc might just be that stupid. So now I point it out.

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bcmonke t1_j1rt36d wrote

I'd like to point out that this leader was NOT voted for by the vast majority of Albertans

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i_never_ever_learn t1_j1qvcjt wrote

I just personally passed a law. I feel so much better.

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Classic_Blueberry973 t1_j1r5pnd wrote

I believe those people call themselves sovereign citizens. They will literally do stuff like that in order to try avoid paying taxes, rent, you name it. Many live in Alberta, unsurprisingly.

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tayroarsmash t1_j1u9jwa wrote

I love their magical logic. They often won’t give their names. The ones in America have this belief about gold fringes on a flag and how anyone who has a flag with gold fringes isn’t representing the government. They have all these hyper specific things that they think makes a difference to our legal system. I wouldn’t be shocked if they freaked out if you touched them with iron.

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Interesting-Month-56 t1_j1r050c wrote

Oh yeah. Nothing like conservatives learning exactly nothing at all from their success in the UK with Brexit - leading to massive economic losses, the worst economic downturn in the post-WWII era, and no prospects for improvement in the next decade.

Go Alberta! May Texas and Florida go next.

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InfectedByEli t1_j1u82mm wrote

Yes, the UK is the only country in the whole of human history to voluntarily impose economic sanctions upon itself. Of course, the Conservatives explain this as being all the fault of the previous Labour government from checks notes twelve years ago, or the Corbin government that didn't happen, or the Starmer government that is yet to happen. It's everyone's fault apart from the Conservatives who lied to the country in order to stop billionaires having to explain their taxable income to the EU.

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456afisher t1_j1r3hbd wrote

Apparently they folks in Alberta seem to believe that all the other provinces in which their pipelines pass before they enter the US are all okay with their nonsense and all POTUS all agree that US needs their "crude'.

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Outrageous-Gur4824 t1_j1ralia wrote

“Conservative Morons Do Something Moronic.”

There, all fixed.

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Most-Hawk-4175 t1_j1qy8sr wrote

MAGA with Jan 6th now Canada has to deal with this? The stupid cancer is spreading.

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Apart_Ad_5993 t1_j1sf7p6 wrote

She'll be voted out in the spring in the Provincial election.

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iforgotmymittens t1_j1rls5v wrote

“Heck off, dad! I won’t do what you tell me!”

slams bedroom door

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Kelvara t1_j1t7rxj wrote

In this case the door is also a couple thousand kilometers long.

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[deleted] t1_j1s8yrz wrote

Grew up in Alberta. Am saddened to see it has fallen so far.

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thedoogster t1_j1s37ya wrote

This does not take place in "Western Canada".

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manniesalado t1_j1s05l6 wrote

Most conservatives have never read a book on political science and would be hard pressed to name three political philosophers, but boy, do they have a long list of changes they want to see regarding the political establishment.

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SherifGames t1_j1s5v1u wrote

what they really want is a government free from liberals and leftwingers. they want to tell others how to live, but don't like it when you tell them to try to be better people.

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Apart_Ad_5993 t1_j1sfh7w wrote

This woman is beyond 'conservative'. Albertans didn't elect her, the party did after the premier resigned.

She and the party will be tossed in the Provincial election in the spring.

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originalthoughts t1_j1ts94h wrote

She also pushed one of the members of her party to resign in a riding where the UCP always got around 75% of the vote, and called a by-election there so she would het elected there (where she got a lot less than 75% of the vote). She refused to call a by-election in Calgary Elbow for some made up reasons though, even though it was vacant long before. Why couldn't she call a by-election in both districts? She is such a despicable person using the most dirty politics possible for her own gain.

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ouchouch2233 t1_j1rh4on wrote

Doesn’t seem like they want they’re country run by rich elite from the WEF

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TheCrimsonFreak t1_j1tadlf wrote

Just what the world needs, more division. /s

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FunnyTown3930 t1_j1tzsrx wrote

Can townships or cities reject the sovereignty of the Province? How would it be any different?

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lionhart280 t1_j1wxtxa wrote

Fuck, thats actually a really good idea lol

Edmontonian here, we should push this as a sort of "push the point" bylaw. Edmonton doesn't need to listen to what Alberta tells it to do, if Alberta doesnt have to listen to what Canada tells it to do haha

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laconicflow t1_j1smzfc wrote

If anyone wonders why secession is stupid, look how much weaker Canada would appear to the United States if this province broke away. Like cracking a leg off a chicken.

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KOBossy55 t1_j1sxoms wrote

Oh brother, Alberta really acquitting itself just brilliantly, again...

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mtnviewcansurvive t1_j1u4fju wrote

do they really need Alberta? let them go: and figure out all the things and Pay for all the things a federal system takes care of. dont hear a lot of talk about who pays for succession.....

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lionhart280 t1_j1wy8ed wrote

Yes, Alberta has a lot of important resources Canada needs and it's kind of in the inside of Canada, lol

We make up a respectable chunk of exports for canada's economy, and a lot of pipelines and highways run right through the middle of us.

Alberta sovereignty would never play out, its purely the UCP party trying to force the federal government to tell them "lol no" so they can whine about how awful "the libs" are for not letting them do what they want.

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lionhart280 t1_j1wys48 wrote

Albertan here.

The really funny part about this bill is it can 100% backfire on the UCP party the moment they lose the upcoming election and the NDP (our left leaning party) gets voted in.

This bill cuts both ways and gives a lot of power to the party, which means the NDP could "abuse it" to force in a bunch of stuff that will quickly close up all the stupid loopholes the conservatives have been abusing, then use the bill to self terminate itself through its own powers.

It's basically handing the NDP party the ultimate uno reverso card, all they have to do is win the election though...

I swear to fucking god if the UCP gets elected again I will prolly consider selling my house and move provinces, I would lose all faith in my fellow albertans.

However from what I have seen even the fairly rooted conservatives have felt like the right wing is poisoned by the UCP over the past few years and have crossed the line towards the left, thats how bad the UCP fucked up.

Even some of my rigorously conservative family members are like "fuck the UCP" so I have a bit of hope lol

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mymar101 t1_j1scx93 wrote

Does this actually mean anything?

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Dull-Objective3967 t1_j1sorz8 wrote

So alberta is panning on leaving, and this time they really mean it...

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meglon978 t1_j1y6czz wrote

Some Canadians seem to have learned from the traitorous US whiny little bitch confederates. It's sad to think there are so many stupid people in the world.

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Future-Studio-9380 t1_j22drzh wrote

The country is governed exclusively on the basis of the neurosis and fixations of the coasts and cities so why wouldn't people in Alberta want to not be ruled by Ottawa? They basically have no say in national government.

Why not let them go their own way and leave the Federation or even join the US? Put it to a vote.

With their oil resources they can certainly make a go of it.

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AliJaba t1_j1skvek wrote

These stories are nothing more than provocative click bait. I’m so tired of news sources instigating politics.

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Jackolantern668 t1_j1qx69j wrote

I thought it was only some American conservatives that thought this way.

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humorous_ t1_j1qy4w6 wrote

I thought it was only the French part of Canada (and even then only really Quebec) that wanted to secede. Maybe I’ve been giving Alberta too little credit as the Texas of Canada…

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