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Rage_Like_Nic_Cage OP t1_iz7ct5b wrote

> The website allegedly created by Aldrich is a forum-type “free speech” site where people have anonymously posted racist and antisemitic memes, language and videos.

Least surprising thing ever.

>A video on the homepage titled “Wrong Targets” advocates for killing civilians as part of a larger effort to “assassinate the elites at the top” and “cleanse” society.

Spoiler Alert: Colorado Springs Gay Bar isn’t gonna be where the elites are. It’s almost like the right uses the term “elite” as code for something else…

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rikki-tikki-deadly t1_iz7h2nv wrote

It's interesting how these guys never seem to track down the "elites" at a place like, oh, I don't know, say a fundraising dinner held at the Augusta National Golf Club.

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N8CCRG t1_iz7n6yg wrote

Those big wigs on Wall Street who were eating caviar and calling the police on the Occupy protestors sure as hell weren't hanging out in Club Q in Colorado Springs.

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mces97 t1_iz7s1ej wrote

I know what the term globalist means to them. 😓

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Malaix t1_iz97mvv wrote

One of the many jaw dropping exchanges of Ye’s “THE JEWS!” Rants was Tim Pool blatantly trying to teach Ye how to dogwhistle and using the word “media” and Ye picked right up on it and went “yeah but when you say that you mean “Jew” right? I just want to say that.”

Like Ye picked right up on that dogwhistle he just spit it out because he wants to be blunt. Meanwhile Tim Pool had that word right on hand for him.

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MalcolmLinair t1_iz7fgor wrote

I'd be shocked but thrilled if the authorities treated this like the terrorist attack that it is.

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PlayfulParamedic2626 t1_iz7ae5m wrote

If law enforcement did their job after the bomb threat, the shooter would’ve had a harder time getting the guns.

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AgentDaxis t1_iz7q0qr wrote

I'm sure the cops shared the same ideology as the shooter.

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Saba_Ku t1_iz7fbfw wrote

That's not how that works. Nobody presses charges but the prosecutor. The mother can not cooperate, but she has no actual hand in the filing of charges.

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PlayfulParamedic2626 t1_iz7ffal wrote

According to Colorado law they didn’t need the mother to press charges.

You’re saying the cops returned the guns he used in the shooting?

Edit : Such a troubling case — dropped or not — could still have been used to trigger Colorado’s “red flag” law, which allows family members or law enforcement to ask a judge to order a removal of guns for a year from people dangerous to themselves or others, with possible extensions based on subsequent hearings.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-12-06/dropped-case-foretold-colorado-bloodbath

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PirbyKuckett t1_iz7frrp wrote

I’m not positive but can’t the law enforcement officer still file for the red flag law because he was a danger to himself or others?

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weecefwew t1_iz7keau wrote

I think this makes it abundantly clear what a shitty half-assed trolling attempt the “non-binary” thing was

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UncannyTarotSpread t1_iz7rn80 wrote

I’m non-binary and it was both infuriating and revolting for that to be spewed out.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_iz8cbbi wrote

Being non-binary yourself, do you think that his claims of identifying that way are bogus? And until he or his lawyers provide more concrete convincing evidence that he's genuine and not just using this to get out of hate crimes charges, should we or should we not honor his pronouns?

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Tangocan t1_iz8wdwj wrote

For what its worth, its been confirmed hes being charged for hate crimes. The non-binary claim is them further spitting in the face of the community they hate, and the victims he murdered.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_izawsaq wrote

Plus the right-wingers could use his dubious claim of being nonbinary to claim that he's actually a left-leaning person in order to take the 'heat' off their side much the way they always blame Antifa people for a lot of their bad acts. All indications are that this kid shared the wingnut convictions of his MAGA politician grandpa, his mom and his loopy ex-porn star/MMA fighter dad.

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AlsoElSpazzz t1_izaceb6 wrote

I don't know why you're getting downvoted to hell and back I think it's an interesting moral question.

Personally? Coming from a trans person, I have a hard time taking the statement at face value and dont feel someone gets to claim kinship with a group of people after murdering them.

Just my 2 cents.

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_izasfka wrote

Neither do I although some nonbinary people have commented elsewhere on this issue that while they might feel skeptical of this guy's claims and despise the violent crimes he committed, that not honoring his claim and preferred pronouns could be a slippery slope. Or, in other words, asking him to pass a kind of 'litmus test' could lead to other nonbinary people who have done nothing wrong whatsoever to have to 'prove' themselves. A little wordy there I know but that's kind of the gist of their objections.

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AlsoElSpazzz t1_izat933 wrote

And I can see that side of it too. Like I said its a bit of a ethical cunundrum.

I still personally think murdering a bunch of lgbt people just before alters the preponderance of evidence considerations for me, but i'd probobobly aquiece in company of those who feel strongly the other way.

Can we just refer to them as "peice of shit" and be done with it? 🤣

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Thetimmybaby t1_iz7g77m wrote

>The website allegedly created by Aldrich is a forum-type “free speech” site where people have anonymously posted racist and antisemitic memes, language and videos.

Sounds like Twitter

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Yousoggyyojimbo t1_iz7gk3t wrote

Sounds like every right wing produced social media platform. Right down to it being flooded with racism and political extremism

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Moopology t1_iz7j98v wrote

Sounds like reddit too. And the admins let it happen.

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Malaix t1_iz983kh wrote

To an extent. It varies in severity from storm front 4chan parler shit to places with an effort to moderate.

However even places that moderate give conservatives a break when it comes to breaking TOS.

That’s the big irony of the conservative habit of bitching about censorship. They are the freest group of all. Everyone else gets the full TOS enforced on them. Conservatives get little slaps on the wrist like Facebook jail because if they were treated like everyone else they’d all be perma banned by now and I would look like social media kicked all conservatives off and political engagement would tank.

Like Reddit at this point probably should have ban hammered conservative and Republican and Tuckercarlson.

But they won’t because they are terrified of what it would look like if they actually gave the rest of conservative forums the T_D treatment.

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Littlebotweak t1_iz7r0m9 wrote

Videos they already knew where to find:

> The “brother site” previously hosted video of the mass shooting at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, in May that left 10 people dead, according to an archive of the page that was viewed by NBC News. Links to the site were quickly shared on the extremist sites 4chan and 8kun (formerly 8chan) in the days after the shooting, where the site and video were discussed.

So a site hosts that garbage and it just gets taken down? They don’t find the host? Well then.

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Marthaver1 t1_iz8enl0 wrote

Maybe they should start using their counter terror task force or whatever and treat these right wing extremists as what they are - terrorists and traitors.

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nooshaw t1_iz8dpm4 wrote

4chan and 8kun. I can't believe these sites are still in operation.

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AKMarine t1_iz8ynvd wrote

FBI is getting a lot of hate on its Facebook page from alt right MAGAs and foreign bad actors because of this. They think the FBI should be focused on Hunter’s laptop and voter fraud right now, and that being racist is a First Amendment right that the FBI should not be investigating.

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Showerthawts t1_iz9i8hb wrote

Gestures broadly at right wing websites

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Jeff_Damn t1_iz92ysf wrote

"F.B.I. asking about videos and racist website in connection with Colorado shooting"

Why, do they think they might recognize some of their own people?

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