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Dvoraxx t1_j28t0rv wrote
Kyiv independent has been insanely anti Russia for ages. It’s basically the only source for all the stories about Russian warcrimes
Outrageous_Garlic306 t1_j29kw23 wrote
Nothing insane about it. The only sensible position to take.
Dvoraxx t1_j29lzwb wrote
My point is that people are very quick to dismiss anything remotely negative about Ukraine as Russian propaganda
The comment I replied to didn’t even say it was fake. They literally said “people who are aligned with Russia say it’s bad, therefore it must be good” and tried to imply the Kyiv Independent is under Russian control
rebo9520 t1_j2aiuhk wrote
I wonder why
Konras t1_j28tzge wrote
By "from ages" you mean - since November last year?
chain_letter t1_j29frx2 wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kyiv_Independent
they're booing you, but you're right.
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mrlolloran t1_j28yjp1 wrote
I don’t follow them but they’ve had a good reason since about March 2014 imo
Konras t1_j295esd wrote
Kiev Independent was founded in November 2021.
mrlolloran t1_j295jpx wrote
So nobody who founded it or working there can have opinions from before the paper was founded?
Edit: people downvoting me are smooth brained af. That’s like saying I couldn’t have an opinion or stance on 9/11 if I started a newspaper next week because it already happened.
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mrlolloran t1_j2a1u84 wrote
Yes the Russian Federation has no history before 1991 I forgot
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FapMeNot_Alt t1_j290uvs wrote
Several organizations quoted within this article are European or Ukrainian organizations. You can't just say "russia" and close your eyes to bad shit that happens, even if it is one of our allies doing it.
This law is needlessly broad and empowers the Ukrainian state to engage in prior restraint.
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heimos OP t1_j28ozxs wrote
Kyiv Independent is a Russian news outlet ? You must be joking, right. This law essentially gives total media control to the government. Don’t forget there is election, yes despite the war, an election in 2023. So think what it will give ruling party
str8bipp t1_j28psop wrote
How does an election work during war when the population is scattered and just trying to maintain power and heat?
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Freexscsa t1_j28ppbb wrote
I really don't think that Zelensky is in any danger of losing an election right now.
heimos OP t1_j28qijp wrote
Parliament not presidential. He could lose majority. It’s not a two party system
Freexscsa t1_j28ryd2 wrote
I am going to go out on a limb and say chances are people are going to be pretty supportive of a government that's managing to fight off an invasion from a supposed super power.
barrinmw t1_j28yjgw wrote
How do you have an election when you have parts of the country literally occupied by a foreign power? How do you have elections when your polling locations become targets for Russian missiles?
HungryGiantMan t1_j2axmjh wrote
Your post history is full of Russian apologism and defense of Andrew Tate. We know who are.
heimos OP t1_j2axzke wrote
Anything you don’t like is Russian propaganda. So yea, I use my brain and see both sides to everything
Blitzdrive t1_j2b3w3i wrote
What’s the both sides to the Russian invasion? What’s their compelling argument?
heimos OP t1_j2bnmhf wrote
There is absolutely nothing positive in invading a sovereign country. Between lives lost and ethnic damage between two nations, the pain from this conflict will last for years. With that being said, you have to zoom out and look at the bigger picture of has happened in the last 30 years between the West and Russia
shewy92 t1_j2e48eb wrote
So it's the West's fault Russia invaded a country that was minding its own business? LOL, funny joke my guy.
heimos OP t1_j2ebumj wrote
Remember when Putin and Biden met, guess what they talked about. They couldn’t agree on something, and we could only guess what. Result of that was the invasion.
BetaplanB t1_j28y5q6 wrote
Please provide sources that this article is directly or indirectly backed by Russia. Otherwise please adjust this seemingly false statement.
I am all in for throwing the Russian fascist propaganda out but you need to keep sane with yourself.
AudibleNod t1_j28m2td wrote
The byline isn't from a person. Which is usually suspect when other articles have a real person. Often this is done when the journalist wants some level of protection.
tetoffens t1_j28m79b wrote
Attributing it to the paper itself rather than a person usually means it is the official stance of the publication, not that someone is afraid to attach their name.
But I don't think it's that complicated here. There are loads of random articles on this site attributed like this. Ones which would have no implication where someone would get in any trouble.
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Hopeful_Hamster21 t1_j2a958e wrote
And soon to be coming from Fox News.
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ucjuicy t1_j28n99m wrote
You do realize that invading a neighboring country and bombing its citizens for eight months is a tad more authoritarian than this law ever could be?
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BetaplanB t1_j28ydt3 wrote
That doesn’t pave the way to bolster journalism. Even EU journalism groups outed critique of this new law.
Anonuser123abc t1_j2akm8l wrote
One thing being bad doesn't make a different bad thing good. Your comment is the text book argument from hypocrisy (whataboutism). The two things are separate and different and also both bad.
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