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[deleted] t1_j5i16m0 wrote

Reply to comment by Ceratisa in Minister: Germany won't block Poland giving Ukraine tanks by Brave_Conflict465

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Bladye t1_j5iyk7n wrote

Ukraine confirmed that they started training their soldiers in Poland on Leopards

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Charr03 t1_j5jg8j2 wrote

If I understand it correctly, they only started after the German minister of defense recommended them to do that.

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and_dont_blink t1_j5klbsq wrote

>The simple truth is that Poland hasn't even asked for export permissions yet,

Because Germany has been extremely clear it wouldn't give permission. It even started a whole program where member countries could send older Soviet tanks in exchange for German tanks, but would not allow German tanks into Ukraine. This only started after public pressure to send tanks couldn't be ignored.

This fell apart when Germany wasn't following through, and Poland finally said they'd setup a coalition of willing partners to send in tanks, get Ukraine training and the supplies and repairs/maintenance they would need. The USA said they'd send Abrams tanks to countries that sent their leopards, because Germany is unwilling and unable. This isn't ideal as the continent and Ukraine are not setup for leopards, but Germany isn't giving a lot of choice and many, many Ukranians will die without them.

> and Germany has repeatedly stated that would give permission..

This isn't true funwithtentacles. Please provide some links that aren't from the last day or so? You won't be able to, because Germany has been extremely clear they wouldn't allow it.

I don't understand the German attempts to blatantly lie and rewrite history about these things, as history is not going to be any kinder to their role in this unless there are serioys changes.

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