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LePouletMignon t1_j7vw20t wrote

Reply to comment by derycksan71 in Killer whale moms are still supporting their adult sons — and it's costing them by RestSnorlax

>these hydro electric dams that block salmon spawning from CA to Alaska are primarily built and owned by the state, not "capitalism"

Yes, and? Nation states are some of the most hardcore capitalists lol.

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madhatmatt2 t1_j8067vh wrote

Yes,and? A socialist or communist country has the ability to dam rivers too not sure why this being blamed on capitalism and not lack of environmental education and disregard for the long term effects of not giving a shit about the consequences of our actions.

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derycksan71 t1_j7w5hnd wrote

So public ownership of the resources and production of services...is capitalism? These are blended markets, some aspects such as publicly owned utilities, are implementation of socialism. It's not a negative.

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LePouletMignon t1_j7ww3fj wrote

>So public ownership of the resources and production of services...is capitalism?

Just because something is owned by the state does not mean it isn't a part of some capitalist scheme. The state is an actor like everyone else that is free to engage in capitalist endeavours. There are countless infrastructures that don't benefit the public in any way even though, on paper, the public "owns" these structures.

The state is often a key perpetrator in processes involving extracting capital and resources while providing nothing in return for the local communities. This is called extractivism and is as far away from socialism as you can get.

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jspangles313 t1_j7wvo6m wrote

Yeah but something something Europe comrade Bernie Sanders both sides bad.

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[deleted] t1_j7wamsx wrote

The guy you're responding to is the type to go burn down a small business and then claim they "stuck it to the man" without realizing they just ruined another middle class person's life.

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Ritz527 t1_j7wuf4j wrote

Kind of tired of this braindead "everything bad is capitalism" circlejerk Reddit has. As if public services don't regularly fuck shit up lol.

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littlebirdori t1_j7yj39h wrote

Why do they fuck things up though? I'd wager the answer is usually to reduce expenses and generate more revenue, both of which are aims of capitalism.

Hospitals and utility companies are supposed to be "public goods." As it turns out, market pressures incentivizing these entities to profit unconditionally from a populace utterly dependent on their services isn't very good for the public.

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