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Flash_ina_pan t1_jedmlvb wrote
That's an OSHA violation
Jthundercleese t1_jedn09t wrote
Keys stored on the lift/ignition?
Odd I never heard of it. I drove lifts for 4 different companies and never was told that.
Flash_ina_pan t1_jedns5c wrote
It's more about preventing unauthorized use, it ties into
1917.43(b)(3) When a powered industrial truck is left unattended, load-engaging means shall be fully lowered, controls neutralized and brakes set. Unless the truck is in view and within 25 feet (7.62 m) of the operator, power shall be shut off. Wheels shall be blocked or curbed if the truck is on an incline.
This is what I have seen cited
Jthundercleese t1_jeekf69 wrote
Oh well that doesn't say anything about where the keys are left.
TwentySevenNihilists t1_jeexuya wrote
"controls neutralized" is the part that addresses the keys being taken out, or some measure taken to ensure that some random idiot can't drive off in your telehandler.
Jthundercleese t1_jefwbcr wrote
I think that's tough to argue. In a forklift controls are always "neutralized". Lift, tilt, shift, etc all put themselves into neutral when you're not using them. And an ignition key in the off position, hard to argue that's not neutral. That's semantics that I think really wouldn't hold up.
TwentySevenNihilists t1_jefxcth wrote
I could certainly see it argued either way. I guess it would come down to how much time and money you have to argue with OSHA if they decide that it includes the keys.
Jthundercleese t1_jefykfu wrote
I would definitely argue with someone from OSHA over it. When a car's controls are in neutral, no one ever assumes that means the key is not in the ignition or specifically not in the car whatsoever. I would definitely cite my 8 years of driving lifts and dozen times talking to OSHA where it was no a problem. If they want keys stored when machines aren't in use, that's got to be written specifically.
Hip_Hop_Hippos t1_jeeuh6d wrote
I wonder if that’s purposeful because some of them don’t have keys.
Whako4 t1_jeel350 wrote
Weird In the car industry if you have cars in the garage you have to keep the keys with them
XKeyscore666 t1_jef9028 wrote
Yeah, when it gets turned off/on 50+ times a day it seems a little silly to pull the key every time.
area_tribune t1_jegmpdq wrote
In this instance, it was an, "Oh shit!" violation.
porcelainvacation t1_jedph3g wrote
When I was a kid I used to mess around in the woods and came across a logging site. The keys were in the bulldozer so I started it and took it for a joy ride. I couldn’t figure out how to turn it off so I left it running. Later I learned that diesel engines of that era had a mechanical lever that pushed on the injection pump to shut them down.
fallingcave t1_jefa15f wrote
Fuck I bet they were mad
porcelainvacation t1_jefj1t4 wrote
No idea, nobody caught me. It was the 80’s, they either would run you off or give you a job if you were a kid hanging around a site. I had a job at 14 years old doing tractor work on an estate because I got caught joyriding a Kubota tractor
uncertainusurper t1_jedmc7m wrote
How hard is it to trace machinery? I wouldn’t mind an industrial backhoe for some gardening projects..
Jthundercleese t1_jedmydq wrote
Getting it to your place would be the hardest part. Not being seen by someone inclined to call the cops, basically. They're slow, so you'd have to do it when there's no traffic to back up. Maybe like 2:45/3:00 in the morning. Well after bars close, but before the super early work shifts start. You'll want to bring extra fuel, and maybe chose something with tires that can drive a bit faster.
yallxtrippin t1_jeeay9w wrote
This guy robs
Jthundercleese t1_jeemwtj wrote
I just have a... thorough imagination.
HYPERBOLE_TRAIN t1_jeeczeh wrote
Most of these machines have a manufacturer-universal key. These machines do not abide by automobile conventions for operation.
This is to say that the person who knows how to operate the machine also has access to the key regardless of whether a key is in the ignition. The standard for disabling machines like this is to remove the “night-key”, which disables the battery and therefore the ignition. The problem with that is the universal nature of night-keys.
Edit to add that a lot of forklifts operate pretty similarly to autos, besides the rear-wheel steering. The mini gradeall in the pic takes a little more knowledge to get moving but an average driver could figure it out in a couple minutes.
5uper5kunk t1_jef9lhj wrote
Yep, I work in industry where I'm constantly dealing with rented industrial equipment and I have a zippered pouch with like 75 to 100 random keys in it that I've accumulated over the years. I have never fail to be able to start any piece of keyless equipment that have I come across so long as it's something I've rented before.
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bigbangbilly t1_jefzkmw wrote
>manufacturer-universal key
>universal nature of night-keys
So basically a scoundrel distributing .jpegs of those keys can cause a lot of chaos.
AwTickStick t1_jeed39d wrote
When I was kid we used to drive random construction equipment. We were shit, but they always had a key under the mat or in the ashtray
LuccaJolyne t1_jedusdh wrote
Okay but let's face it, if you're going to do chase someone in a forklift, why wouldn't you laugh maniacally?
StrangeVaultDweller t1_jeehfdt wrote
This is the way.
joqagamer t1_jee8s6d wrote
Intrusive thoughts won
ramriot t1_jeehur0 wrote
Menacing pedestrians I don't get, but the laughing maniacally while joyriding a stollen forklift I totally get.
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Blakut t1_jedtkkn wrote
driving a forklift without a certification, that's life in prison buddy
misterfriend t1_jee0vts wrote
That's all they cost? Good lord, I'm imagining all the activities and places I could see with one of those.
jimi15 t1_jeebcv0 wrote
"This is the song Starting off our medley"
CoffeeAndRegret t1_jefamf9 wrote
Crimes that are funny should get a free pass. This man is out there making society more interesting and we are being so ungrateful by imprisoning him. /s
alexjaness t1_jefm3cb wrote
as if there is any other way to laugh in a stolen forklift.
s-multicellular t1_jee7on7 wrote
As one does..
The_mingthing t1_jeeg7hq wrote
Ma1eficent t1_jef5pqg wrote
Keep Portland weird; check.
zitmanthefive t1_jeg9rve wrote
DecepticonStryker t1_jegfh6q wrote
¡Olé!
thirdeyefish t1_jegcqxz wrote
I feel like the value of th forklift is not an important part of this.
Suspicious_Bug6422 t1_jeh3vzb wrote
If he was hunting pedestrians in $70,000 stolen forklift this would be a total non-story
FUThead2016 t1_jeemaba wrote
Maybe he was doing it ironically
5uper5kunk t1_jef9xg3 wrote
So the reason this happens a lot is the nature of rental equipment. A lot of the times the renter isn't there while the gear is being dropped off or picked up, so there's no chance for an in person key transfer.
Reasonable people use one of those magnetic key boxes and then send a text/email giving its location, but either hanging in the ignition or under the seat are absolutely the industry standard
Multiple times over the course of my career have I a "borrowed" a random forklift when I needed to move some thing and mine either wasn't available/had not been delivered/ran out of power.
LaughableIKR t1_jefo9j5 wrote
Why not. I sounded like he was having a great day.
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kelsigurado t1_jeg70pq wrote
Darn, I was hoping for a video.
goliathfasa t1_jeg7x3q wrote
Portland trying to top Florida.
You’ve still got a long way to go, grasshopper.
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Conflixxion t1_jegi6sz wrote
looks more like a telehandler but I get it... most people wouldn't know what the hell a telehandler is.
somedave t1_jegzcxb wrote
Florida man's cousin: Portland man. Probably slightly closer than cousin, the tree is not very branched.
Suspicious_Bug6422 t1_jeh3kcw wrote
An average day in Portland
AnAsianBandito t1_jeethho wrote
he just like me fr
TyrionJoestar t1_jef9wik wrote
That does sound pretty fun lol
Norjac t1_jee966t wrote
Maybe it's a homeowner who is fed up with the homeless situation chasing a homeless pedestrian. If so, completely understandable.
TwentySevenNihilists t1_jeeyukd wrote
The effort you had to put into this....
Norjac t1_jef531f wrote
Imagine putting actual effort into something.
TwentySevenNihilists t1_jef5fo5 wrote
Pass.
Jthundercleese t1_jedlyo6 wrote
It's really impressive how often keys are left in the ignition or just somewhere on heavy machinery like this. They probably won't change anything and just hope no one else has the same idea.