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omally_360 t1_j4a4rh3 wrote

Reply to comment by Xyrus2000 in Idaho Republican Apologizes for Comparing Women to Farm Animals by wallstreetegg

I know one republican. He doesn’t think like that at all. Sources?

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Kittenscute t1_j4ad5yy wrote

> He doesn’t think like that at all.

He votes for people who think like that so I don't give a shit if he claims to think or not think like that.

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omally_360 t1_j4b0vx0 wrote

You guys on reddit live in a special kind of bubble :-)

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ifelife t1_j4b1xf8 wrote

You know one republican, make your decision based on them and think it's the redditors who are in a bubble?

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omally_360 t1_j4b2o8k wrote

Nope, that’s not even a little bit close to what I was saying.

I was just saying that not every single person who consider themselves republican thought of women as farm animals.

I can see from the downvotes that You guys disagree with that, which I find astonishing.

But then I remember this is just Reddit :-)

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Mouthtuom t1_j4b40zk wrote

Yet they are willing to vote for people who are willing to compare women to farm animals, or are openly racist, or are transphobes, or antisemites, etc etc etc.

To be a Republican in 2023 is to be either a bigoted troglodyte, or to support them (Same thing)

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omally_360 t1_j4c1cyp wrote

No idea. I don’t follow american politics too closely, but this is like saying all muslims are terrorists. I don’t see how you guys can have a serious dialogue if you and your democrat friends use these childish and - quite frankly - infantile rhetorics. That goes for republicans too by the way. The sooner you realise this, the better.

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Mouthtuom t1_j4c5h8l wrote

Lol I’m not a democrat.

No it’s not like saying Muslims are terrorists. It’s nothing like that. There are over a billion Muslims. Only the smallest fraction supports terrorist violence.

Ask how many republicans think political violence is justified. Or have many agree with racist sentiment When polled.

It’s not possible to have a “serious dialogue” with proud republicans anymore because they are incapable of good faith. Maybe not living in America has insulated you, but after almost half a century here I’m see it clear as day.

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omally_360 t1_j4cuhk0 wrote

I find that democrats are just as «crazy», as it were, but I guess I am coloured by social media, which obviously highlight the extremes. That’s why I am sceptical enough when you and other tells me that every single person who consider themselves a republican are horribal human beings, and downvote me when I dare question this.

Anyway, I don’t really care. This just isn’t in my world, I live in a democratic and quite liberal nation where we believe in dialogue, not silencing our political counterparts. Seems to work.

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Mouthtuom t1_j4d2od1 wrote

Lol yea and where you aren’t surrounded by heavily armed neighbors with racist symbols all over their yards and cars. Again, insulated.

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omally_360 t1_j4d5bo5 wrote

Well, I guess that’s fair enough

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Mouthtuom t1_j4d83bq wrote

In fairness I don’t actually believe every conservative is evil. I’m really just talking about proud republicans. Many independent conservatives know what the Republican Party is doing is wrong.

It’s just exhausting living with these people. My country is 70% trump voters and the county clerk still made illegal copies of the voting systems and claimed voter fraud. They’re insane.

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Rennarjen t1_j4b2nu7 wrote

But effectively there's not a difference. Actions are more important that thoughts. Your friend can think whatever he likes but if he's voting for the people who do think like that and are making decisions in line with their ideas then...what makes him any different? Maybe you don't know your friend as well as you think.

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jdvhunt t1_j4a8ku4 wrote

I think he means Republican politicians not voters

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Kittenscute t1_j4ad77i wrote

When you vote for bigots, you are bigoted as well. End of story.

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omally_360 t1_j4b19cy wrote

I don’t believe the explanation is as simplistic as that, what a sad narrow view you have, no wonder your country is so polarized as it is.

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Mouthtuom t1_j4b446c wrote

That’s called reality kid. Coddling fascists and their enablers is moronic.

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Kittenscute t1_j4en5bh wrote

> I don’t believe the explanation is as simplistic as that, what a sad
narrow view you have, no wonder your country is so polarized as it is.

It really is, if you vote for bigots, you agree enough with their bigoted views. If you didn't agree with their bigoted views, you wouldn't vote for them.

This is a universal fact, and has nothing to do with America specifically.

> what a sad narrow view you have

What's sad is you unironically defend bigots. Also makes you a disgusting excuse of a human being btw.

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omally_360 t1_j4b10ip wrote

Fair enough, quite a few of them are a little out there

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Xyrus2000 t1_j4b9l1f wrote

If you support those who hold these beliefs, then you are complicit.

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omally_360 t1_j4buq22 wrote

I am saying he doesn't. It doesn't matter what you think or how you argue this, you are just wrong, period.

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dumb_progenitor t1_j4c28eg wrote

That's a dangerous line of thinking that can ironically lead to extremism and eventually fascism. People vote the way do for a variety of reasons, and all politicians are fucked in some way or another(personally I think Republicans are clearly more fucked up), I'm sure you can find untoward comments made by liberal politicians that were later forgotten, because that's how it goes unfortunately, people forget and move on, focusing more on policy/propaganda rather than some random statement a politician makes for better or worse.

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Xyrus2000 t1_j4cadr4 wrote

There are ideological differences on things like taxes, spending, etc. and then there are ideologies of hate.

There is nothing wrong with supporting conservative ideologies like low taxes and smaller government (even if I generally disagree with the policies that spring from that). There is something wrong with supporting someone who supports ignorance, bigotry, misogyny, racism, etc.

That doesn't lead to fascism or extremism. Supporting people who hold these views does, regardless of where they fall politically.

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dumb_progenitor t1_j4cdnks wrote

Fair enough, but its always better to try to bridge differences because in my experience a lot of people are more ignorant than malicious and get defensive when confronted, and sometimes it's better to be less confrontational, of course it depends on how extreme their views are, in this case what this dude said was obviously unacceptable but all or his base might not be equally abhorrent.

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wthareyousaying t1_j4gwfmy wrote

Pray tell, how do you "bridge the difference" with a neo-fascist? Let them riot in the capital again with another attempted coup?

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