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ManhattanRailfan t1_j7fmekw wrote

It's not like the suburbs are any cheaper. Housing costs aren't significantly lower than they are in Manhattan, and are roughly similar to parts of Queens and Brooklyn and the cost of owning a car is like another $12-15k per year per car.

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FiascoBarbie t1_j7fz550 wrote

Where are you in Manhattan that you can buy a duplex for 300K-400k? Or rent a one bedroom apartment for 1800

https://www.apartments.com/240-37-69th-ave-queens-ny/q2dfpyw/

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ManhattanRailfan t1_j7gg9ly wrote

There are plenty of one bedrooms available in Queens and Brooklyn for 1800 or less. Right now on Streeteasy, there are 4 in Astoria, 1 in Woodside, 2 in Flushing, 5 near Prospect Park, and 1 in Sunset Park. All safe, walkable neighborhoods where cars are unnecessary and the commute to Manhattan would be 40 minutes or less.

But even paying $2400 in Manhattan, I still save a ton compared to living in Westchester. The extra ~7200 I spend on rent is half what I would spend on a car, and transportation here maxes out at $1524. Not to mention the significantly higher quality of life and far shorter commute.

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twelvydubs t1_j7gy95d wrote

I think you're exaggerating the cost of owning a car a little, and a 40 minute commute is a little generous for Flushing, Sunset Park and Prospect Park.

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ManhattanRailfan t1_j7h4cci wrote

The median cost for owning a car in New York state is just under $14k per year per car. I'd be willing to bet for people in and around the city that's even higher considering gas prices and the cost of parking. But even if the net cost is the same, you're still saving time and have a much higher quality of life in the city vs the suburbs.

As for the commute times, I just looked at the time listed on Streeteasy to either my job in Lower Manhattan or my apartment in Midtown a 5 minute walk from GCT, whichever was closer. The longest was 38 minutes from the one in Sunset Park and it required a transfer.

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