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Beerbonkos t1_jaicmic wrote

When will police be held accountable and pay for their legal fees. Defund the police can just be pay your own damn bills and stop freeloading off of taxpayers. And also, do your damn job without abusing power for fucks sake.

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[deleted] t1_jaiolmf wrote

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[deleted] t1_jaisdc8 wrote

Have they told the lawsuits to stop resisting?

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PiffityPoffity t1_jajkefw wrote

If cops want to personally defend themselves, they’re free to waive qualified immunity. I don’t see that happening voluntarily ever.

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PiffityPoffity t1_jak807r wrote

And why would they have any direction in the defense if they don’t have any liability?

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PiffityPoffity t1_jak92ry wrote

No I’m not. It’s the City’s liability, the City’s funds, and the City’s decision to settle. If the cops aren’t a party, they have no authority or responsibility in the matter.

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Arleare13 t1_jajo0u4 wrote

Dude, what are you talking about? They actively fought this case for two years. The PACER docket has like 900 filed documents on it. It’s kind of absurd to say they weren’t allowed to defend themselves.

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Arleare13 t1_jajx8pb wrote

Lawyers from the NYC Law Department represented the NYPD. That’s how it works. The Law Department is like the NYPD’s law firm.

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Arleare13 t1_jajy6s5 wrote

The NYPD could decline representation by the Law Department if they wanted to. They don’t, because the Law Department knows what they’re doing.

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Arleare13 t1_jak23ue wrote

They can self-represent or hire private outside counsel if they want. They just usually don’t, because their internal lawyers don’t usually handle these sorts of cases, and private outside counsel is expensive while the Law Department is free.

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Beerbonkos t1_jajiyp2 wrote

They do fight them and often win. But when the evidence is overwhelmingly against them they settle.

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OverlordXenu t1_jajchc8 wrote

the cops literally have their own lawyers that handle these cases. a friend of mine worked for them.

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OverlordXenu t1_jajhm79 wrote

yeah my guy, the cops have their own law department. my friend literally worked there. they are treated by cops and others as if they are part of the nypd, even if there is nominal structural separation. they are de facto part of the nypd. which is why my friend didn't continue working there. he felt that even the IA lawyers went easy on the cops, which was ironic because they were also despised by the cops as if they were inteneral affairs cops.

but, notably, the lawyers that handle the cases for the cops are not the same ones that handle lawsuits against the city or other departments. that was more the point i was trying to make. the same lawyers do not handle tripping on the sidewalk and police brutality cases.

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Arleare13 t1_jajs898 wrote

The NYPD is represented in big defensive civil rights cases like this by the NYC Law Department, which is a city agency that (among other things) acts as outside counsel for other city agencies and employees. Basically the city equivalent of the state Attorney General.

The NYPD does also have its own internal law department, but they don't handle big litigations like this one.

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