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TheAJx t1_jal7b1g wrote

Reply to comment by weedandboobs in NYC is more ethnically diverse, less racially segregated, report finds by Ice_Business

It's not white gentrifiers that are driving black New Yorkers out. It's Hispanics ones.

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cC2Panda t1_jame7r0 wrote

It's a lack of development which we can mostly blame on rich white people. Blaming Hispanic people is like folks blaming Koreans in LA in the 80s and early 90s. Mega wealthy slumlords like Donald Sterling were at the root of it then and they are at the root of the problem now.

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TheAJx t1_jamot32 wrote

Was it white people that killed this housing development in Harlem??

The facts remain. The white population in NY has declined every decade. The hispanic and Asian population has increased. Ergo, if you want to claim someone is driving out black New Yorkers, then you need to actually look at the populations that are growing.

But putting blame on anyone for moving in and out is stupid and backward as fuck.

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survive_los_angeles t1_jamthnz wrote

why does it have to be blame? housing problems can be fixed without always trying to turn it into an ethnic blame game -- that just clouds things and makes things hard to fix.

Things change, people move and migrate as their needs want or dreams dictate or economic realities come into view.

It be alot easier to navigate this without painting it as ethnic struggles - when of course.. its always been just a transitional class undulations in housing.

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TizonaBlu t1_janjrp7 wrote

I mean, Hispanic are 18% of US population, blacks are 12%. Black people were always over represented in NYC. If anything, it makes sense there are more Hispanics in NY now.

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TheAJx t1_jao7m4e wrote

I don't have any comment on what group should have what percent on all that. Live and let live.

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TizonaBlu t1_jao7ybz wrote

I mean, I didn't say any race should be any percentage. If anything the person I was responding to is talking about racial quota more. I'm simply stating that decreasing in black population doesn't seem out of the normal in terms of national demography.

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TheAJx t1_jao9ni7 wrote

I agree with you. It's not exactly a surprise that population demographic are shifting. And its not always evil rich white people's fault.

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LongIsland1995 t1_jankaok wrote

Rich white people are the ones who want development. Who do you think is moving into those glass monstrosities?

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cC2Panda t1_janmqf5 wrote

They want a specific type of luxury development in specific areas, they don't want to fund any sort of actual large scale affordable housing that we actually need.

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LongIsland1995 t1_janmxfl wrote

I think the days of NYCHA towers being built are long gone. And the mixed income housing seems like a scam.

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cC2Panda t1_janotiv wrote

I've advocated it here before but what I'd really like to see is utilitarian housing projects but have it geared towards middle class people instead of filling it up with low income households. One of the biggest failures of housing projects like Pruitt-Igoe in the past is that the maintenance and upkeep are dependent on the people most vulnerable to market fluctuations, so every downturn in the economy sees the buildings fall into disrepair and those with means to get out do and it's a downward spiral.

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LongIsland1995 t1_jantak1 wrote

Isn't that what Mitchell Lama is?

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cC2Panda t1_jaoiq86 wrote

It gets middle class people into projects most of which were originally built for low income housing. I want tens of thousands of units to be built for the express purpose of middle class rent to ownership.

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