Submitted by namedafteracartoon2 t3_125ns0a in nyc
[deleted] t1_je6vsza wrote
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jl250 t1_je9f6t7 wrote
Imagine seeing businesses/capital/professionals/full service buildings *fucking finally* arriving up to Harlem and thinking that's a bad thing, and pining for the days of dodging muggers and crackheads.
SachaCuy t1_je9g3ag wrote
>Imagine seeing businesses/capital/professionals/full service buildings *fucking finally* arriving up to Harlem and thinking that's a bad thing, and pining for the days of dodging muggers and crackheads.
- full service building means more expensive, its not like you get the extra services for free. Hence people get priced out.
- There are no muggers or crackheads in the photo, that is you projecting. I know the 80s had more muggers and crack heads but the person is reminiscing on lost youth and sense of place and you are shouting 'danger danger' like that scared robot.
- Where did the post say its a good / bad thing. Just said things change with time. Why you trying to be like that?
What is extra stuff for free is look at the prices of old TVs compared to what you can get for the same dollar (not inflation adjusted) now.
jl250 t1_je9hkef wrote
>you are shouting 'danger danger' like that scared robot.
Or maybe I am speaking from experience because my aunt and grandmother lived in the projects on 115th and 2nd ave from 1982 - 2020, where I was also born, and spend my life visiting and seeing crazy shit.
Inglewood_baby t1_jebfdqg wrote
There are still projects and you still have to keep your head on a swivel around them. The issue wasn't w places getting better and safer, but who has been allowed to stay to experience that increased safety in their community. Obviously
midtownguy70 t1_jed6fjy wrote
Well said.
Tall-Ad5755 t1_jeco43m wrote
Therein lies the contradiction though.
The neighborhoods got safer because certian people got pushed out (not all).
So it’s a double edged sword.
Inglewood_baby t1_jecusi2 wrote
People living in these areas has never been the issue, the issue is clearly larger right and it's just easier to blame people who are trying to survive.
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LongIsland1995 t1_jebpqft wrote
That's more like West Harlem though. East Harlem is still rough while also skyrocketing in price
midtownguy70 t1_jed6mk4 wrote
Both sides of town are being demolished and sterilized for the benefit of the replacement humans moving here.
LongIsland1995 t1_je8um1o wrote
That's kind of a nationwide thing among all cultures now. Life has become more sterile
SachaCuy t1_je9g4sr wrote
I blame air conditioning.
LongIsland1995 t1_jeasi3n wrote
Also: helicopter parents, the internet, video games, etc.
midtownguy70 t1_jed6a83 wrote
Mostly one "culture" tbh...the mainstream white transplant culture.
LongIsland1995 t1_jed914d wrote
You can go to any neighborhood with 0 white transplants, and it still won't resemble the pre-internet/cell phone world at all
midtownguy70 t1_jedc9qp wrote
True.
SachaCuy t1_je9fqek wrote
you don't even hear the accent (in Spanish) anywhere in NYC now.
midtownguy70 t1_jed65r8 wrote
All the previous cycles were working and middle class so it was vibrant and amazing. You don't get that with the kind of upper class newcomers arriving en masse to sterilize the place.
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