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H4drienne t1_iyio5db wrote

Police reform needs to lead the next NYC election. They've gone from public servants to public nuisance. No more ex-NYPD goons as mayor.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyj3zfv wrote

I was a Kathryn Garcia voter, but I always felt that if we were to get Adams, at least he would be the most uniquely situated to enact meaningful police reform if he wanted to with his background and we’d likely see some progress there.

HOOOOOOOOOOO BOY! Was I wrong!

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yiannistheman t1_iyj6ag0 wrote

I tend to mostly be a "lesser of two evils" voter, but there's not a day that goes by that I don't think Garcia would have been a thousand times better than Adams, who I knew would be a disaster (and he's still below my expectations of him).

At no point did I expect him to improve crime or the NYPD situation.

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InterscholasticPea t1_iylybu4 wrote

Garcia would at least try but probably not successful. Police is too powerful. The chiefs lasts longer than mayors, they don’t respect the office, they only tolerate them

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Tsquare43 t1_iynqwie wrote

A 42 year old can of tuna fish would have been better than Adams

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_neutral_person t1_iyji8ou wrote

LOL. Anyone even remotely invested in politics knew Adams was not only going to ignore police reform but enable behavior ruining the police's reputation with the public.

Imagine expecting the guy who allowed his staffers to print bogus placards so they could park on sidewalks to go after "the bad apples" in the police force. He does not care.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyjo7sa wrote

Let me rephrase a little bit... I was hopeful he would enact police reform. And I very seriously follow politics and I don't think this was too naive a hope. He definitely was going to come down hard on crime and have a very aggressive stance on policing, but I hoped he could work both sides of that knife's edge.

After DeBlasio came in guns blazing screaming 'all cops are bad' essentially, he was done as far as police reform went right out of the gate. They were never, never going to listen to him. I was hopeful, that Adams might be smarter. I was hopeful that maybe he was smart enough to not scream for police reform from the rooftops like De Blasio did, but would quietly work to make change. And elements of his history are there to make you think he might do that.

That Adams, with his backstory of growing up in NYC, having a tough run in with cops at a young age, founding 100 blacks in law enforcement, etc... That if he wanted to, he was very uniquely positioned to make change.He had all the right parts to be both listened to by cops AND the general public. IF, and it was always an IF to me, he had the will. But hopeful was probably my overall sentiment about it, he still had a lot of career politician stink on him.

Now this far into his tenure I realize that hope was just that, and will never be more.

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ManLindsay t1_iyjqqjf wrote

I definitely see where you’re coming from, I just can’t get behind that. He was always abusive of whatever power he had, and ready to fuck anyone over for a buck. His track record is not good

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GreenTunicKirk t1_iyjs99s wrote

Its unbelievable to me that he was elected. He was openly hostile to the press and his own constiuents during the campaign. The trend of politicians being the worst possible people we can put into office is really upsetting, but I thought NYC was smarter, collectively.

Just another fire burning during the Last Days of Rome.

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_Maxolotl t1_iykru8k wrote

Yeah I knew he was a crook, and I didn't vote for him because of it, but I also knew he was batshit crazy and expected him to at least do some things that were terrible and funny at the same time because of it. So far too much terrible, not enough funny.

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BeaconFae t1_iyj96zy wrote

A successful career cop is only there because they are especially complicit in the corruption and gang like behavior of policing. Any law enforcement officer suggesting they’ll keep their own accountable is gaslighting you.

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PKMKII t1_iyj9n6u wrote

Ex-cop doesn’t want to reform the cops? ShockedPikachuFace.png

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Topher1999 t1_iyjzvt2 wrote

>at least he would be the most uniquely situated to enact meaningful police reform if he wanted to with his background and we’d likely see some progress there.

I'm so sorry and I don't mean to sound this mean, but this is absolutely one of the most naïve things I have ever heard. Cops always look out for their own. Reform? That's basically treason. Also come on, it's Eric Adams.

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Traditional_Way1052 t1_iyk12nu wrote

Yeah but I mean, be real, did you think he wanted to? That if in "if he wanted to" was a big if imo...

(Also a Garcia voter.)

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyk30ia wrote

Right. That was the million dollar question. He had the perfect resume to do it is my point. Nobody was positioned as well to be a police reformer as him. The big if was if he wanted to do it. I thought it was in the realm of possibility… worth hoping for for sure. Would I have bet money on it? No.

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delinquentfatcat t1_iykn4c6 wrote

Not praising Adams here, but let's not forget that Manhattan voters also elected Bragg as DA. Also, bail reform. Police work won't help much when criminals are being turned loose the day after being caught.

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InterscholasticPea t1_iyly6wu wrote

You knew that even the police didn’t enforce Adams right? He was as corrupt as rest of them

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SolitaryMarmot t1_iyjh122 wrote

deBlasio asked them to stop targeting black people and then went on an 8 year press campaign against him in the NYPost that made him the least popular mayor in NYC history.

No politician will EVER try to reform the police again. Just like no politician will ever try to embed mental health programs in existing city agencies and services. They all learned what the punishment is from watching deBlasio.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyk03ls wrote

De Blasio screwed up by being so loud and vocal about it. He came into office screaming from the rooftops for anybody who would listen that the cops were bad. Playing up the story of worrying about his black son with police stops... He embarrassed the cops. In my opinion they deserve it, and his complaints were totally just ones, but if you want to get anything out of them I don't think you can do that. A smart Mayor would keep it quiet, but when contract negotiations come around work it hard.

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brownredgreen t1_iyjtwwt wrote

Every Mayor for the last 40 years has had public disputes with the NYPD

Including Guiliani

I doubt Adams will avoid that; just aint happened yet.

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crmd t1_iyk6woj wrote

Teddy Roosevelt was the last civilian who meaningfully reformed NYPD, over a century ago. And he did it by first going after the police union bosses.

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H4drienne t1_iykefod wrote

There's a great story about Roosevelt doing his own detective work and finding out that the NYPD's most prolific officer was also NYC's biggest criminal. Dude was literally paying other people to commit robberies and then solving his own crimes for clout.

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beagle_bathouse t1_iym9irc wrote

They literally doxed his fucking daughter after she got picked up at a protest. All the personal details on her arrest document, address, etc. Absolute scum.

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beagle_bathouse t1_iym8zop wrote

Best I can do is hire 150 more cops and budget for a fleet of killer NYPD robo dogs.

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grandzu t1_iyldhjp wrote

No politician has the guts to take on the NYPD now.

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