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H4drienne t1_iyio5db wrote

Police reform needs to lead the next NYC election. They've gone from public servants to public nuisance. No more ex-NYPD goons as mayor.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyj3zfv wrote

I was a Kathryn Garcia voter, but I always felt that if we were to get Adams, at least he would be the most uniquely situated to enact meaningful police reform if he wanted to with his background and we’d likely see some progress there.

HOOOOOOOOOOO BOY! Was I wrong!

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yiannistheman t1_iyj6ag0 wrote

I tend to mostly be a "lesser of two evils" voter, but there's not a day that goes by that I don't think Garcia would have been a thousand times better than Adams, who I knew would be a disaster (and he's still below my expectations of him).

At no point did I expect him to improve crime or the NYPD situation.

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InterscholasticPea t1_iylybu4 wrote

Garcia would at least try but probably not successful. Police is too powerful. The chiefs lasts longer than mayors, they don’t respect the office, they only tolerate them

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Tsquare43 t1_iynqwie wrote

A 42 year old can of tuna fish would have been better than Adams

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_neutral_person t1_iyji8ou wrote

LOL. Anyone even remotely invested in politics knew Adams was not only going to ignore police reform but enable behavior ruining the police's reputation with the public.

Imagine expecting the guy who allowed his staffers to print bogus placards so they could park on sidewalks to go after "the bad apples" in the police force. He does not care.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyjo7sa wrote

Let me rephrase a little bit... I was hopeful he would enact police reform. And I very seriously follow politics and I don't think this was too naive a hope. He definitely was going to come down hard on crime and have a very aggressive stance on policing, but I hoped he could work both sides of that knife's edge.

After DeBlasio came in guns blazing screaming 'all cops are bad' essentially, he was done as far as police reform went right out of the gate. They were never, never going to listen to him. I was hopeful, that Adams might be smarter. I was hopeful that maybe he was smart enough to not scream for police reform from the rooftops like De Blasio did, but would quietly work to make change. And elements of his history are there to make you think he might do that.

That Adams, with his backstory of growing up in NYC, having a tough run in with cops at a young age, founding 100 blacks in law enforcement, etc... That if he wanted to, he was very uniquely positioned to make change.He had all the right parts to be both listened to by cops AND the general public. IF, and it was always an IF to me, he had the will. But hopeful was probably my overall sentiment about it, he still had a lot of career politician stink on him.

Now this far into his tenure I realize that hope was just that, and will never be more.

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ManLindsay t1_iyjqqjf wrote

I definitely see where you’re coming from, I just can’t get behind that. He was always abusive of whatever power he had, and ready to fuck anyone over for a buck. His track record is not good

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GreenTunicKirk t1_iyjs99s wrote

Its unbelievable to me that he was elected. He was openly hostile to the press and his own constiuents during the campaign. The trend of politicians being the worst possible people we can put into office is really upsetting, but I thought NYC was smarter, collectively.

Just another fire burning during the Last Days of Rome.

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_Maxolotl t1_iykru8k wrote

Yeah I knew he was a crook, and I didn't vote for him because of it, but I also knew he was batshit crazy and expected him to at least do some things that were terrible and funny at the same time because of it. So far too much terrible, not enough funny.

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BeaconFae t1_iyj96zy wrote

A successful career cop is only there because they are especially complicit in the corruption and gang like behavior of policing. Any law enforcement officer suggesting they’ll keep their own accountable is gaslighting you.

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PKMKII t1_iyj9n6u wrote

Ex-cop doesn’t want to reform the cops? ShockedPikachuFace.png

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Topher1999 t1_iyjzvt2 wrote

>at least he would be the most uniquely situated to enact meaningful police reform if he wanted to with his background and we’d likely see some progress there.

I'm so sorry and I don't mean to sound this mean, but this is absolutely one of the most naïve things I have ever heard. Cops always look out for their own. Reform? That's basically treason. Also come on, it's Eric Adams.

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Traditional_Way1052 t1_iyk12nu wrote

Yeah but I mean, be real, did you think he wanted to? That if in "if he wanted to" was a big if imo...

(Also a Garcia voter.)

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyk30ia wrote

Right. That was the million dollar question. He had the perfect resume to do it is my point. Nobody was positioned as well to be a police reformer as him. The big if was if he wanted to do it. I thought it was in the realm of possibility… worth hoping for for sure. Would I have bet money on it? No.

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delinquentfatcat t1_iykn4c6 wrote

Not praising Adams here, but let's not forget that Manhattan voters also elected Bragg as DA. Also, bail reform. Police work won't help much when criminals are being turned loose the day after being caught.

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InterscholasticPea t1_iyly6wu wrote

You knew that even the police didn’t enforce Adams right? He was as corrupt as rest of them

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SolitaryMarmot t1_iyjh122 wrote

deBlasio asked them to stop targeting black people and then went on an 8 year press campaign against him in the NYPost that made him the least popular mayor in NYC history.

No politician will EVER try to reform the police again. Just like no politician will ever try to embed mental health programs in existing city agencies and services. They all learned what the punishment is from watching deBlasio.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyk03ls wrote

De Blasio screwed up by being so loud and vocal about it. He came into office screaming from the rooftops for anybody who would listen that the cops were bad. Playing up the story of worrying about his black son with police stops... He embarrassed the cops. In my opinion they deserve it, and his complaints were totally just ones, but if you want to get anything out of them I don't think you can do that. A smart Mayor would keep it quiet, but when contract negotiations come around work it hard.

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brownredgreen t1_iyjtwwt wrote

Every Mayor for the last 40 years has had public disputes with the NYPD

Including Guiliani

I doubt Adams will avoid that; just aint happened yet.

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crmd t1_iyk6woj wrote

Teddy Roosevelt was the last civilian who meaningfully reformed NYPD, over a century ago. And he did it by first going after the police union bosses.

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H4drienne t1_iykefod wrote

There's a great story about Roosevelt doing his own detective work and finding out that the NYPD's most prolific officer was also NYC's biggest criminal. Dude was literally paying other people to commit robberies and then solving his own crimes for clout.

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beagle_bathouse t1_iym9irc wrote

They literally doxed his fucking daughter after she got picked up at a protest. All the personal details on her arrest document, address, etc. Absolute scum.

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beagle_bathouse t1_iym8zop wrote

Best I can do is hire 150 more cops and budget for a fleet of killer NYPD robo dogs.

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grandzu t1_iyldhjp wrote

No politician has the guts to take on the NYPD now.

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stalkingshadow01 t1_iyifhc5 wrote

Maybe the car belongs to one of his officers

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Highplowp t1_iyiymaq wrote

I literally can’t get abandoned cars towed that are making it so the streets can’t be cleaned but they have the manpower to arrest this activist for removing a piece of trash? How do we work with the NYPD when this is how we are treated? I’m not faulting an individual officer (most are just doing their job) but the NYPD as an entity is completely tone deaf when it comes to working with the average resident. It’s his is disgusting and they are doubling down on hypocrisy. We basically have 2 cities and two sets of rules at this point and it’s infuriating.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iyjzp4a wrote

911 call has to be handled before 311 calls. There are 30k 911 calls in the city every day.

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squeakycleaned t1_iykck7a wrote

And yet they had time to prosecute the guy for clearing up a license plate.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iykfjyg wrote

Because it was a probably a 911 call

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delinquentfatcat t1_iykmebc wrote

What happens if the whistleblower called 911 instead? Saying something like the car looks suspicious. (Not advocating for this, as it may be misconstrued as something more dangerous and misappropriate emergency resources. OTOH, calling 311 seemed to not work at all here.)

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iykn2aa wrote

Then the cops would have responded to the 911 call

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delinquentfatcat t1_iyknzbb wrote

"911, there is a suspicious vehicle."
"What's suspicious about it?"
"Uh, the license plate has some dirt on it."
"Please call 311 and stop bothering us."

Or, refuse to elaborate and hang up in hopes they do something. But they might send a bomb squad or antiterrorist team, and things may escalate not in the intended way, also may have negative consequences for the caller. (Although on a karmic level, these assholes absolutely deserve a visit from a SWAT team.)

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squeakycleaned t1_iymaz2q wrote

For clarity on why you’re getting downvoted, your initial argument was “they don’t have time to help with illegal cars, they have too many important 911 calls”. I point out how absolutely ridiculous this case is, and that there is no way it should take priority if they are so busy. You respond by saying “well it must’ve been a 911 call”.

So either the cops aren’t as busy as you say, because the 911 calls can be unimportant stuff like this, or they’re terrible at their jobs and prioritize unimportant matters on the arbitrary basis of what number was called.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iymf5jl wrote

A 911 call for what probably is considered criminal mischief has priority over some abandoned vehicle. An alleged crime v a car that needs to be towed has different priorities.

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squeakycleaned t1_iymxypp wrote

Boy oh boy you sure do just love the taste of boot, huh. “Criminal mischief” sounds like a good description of the person purposely blocking their own license plate. It is also a crime to abandon a vehicle.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iymyr0j wrote

Is that so?

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SolitaryMarmot t1_iyjg6ir wrote

This is the same precinct that can't find the guy harassing people and beating dogs to death in the Park because they don't answer 911 calls right?

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freeradicalx t1_iyj9d4c wrote

I remember when Michael Ameri was captain of the 78th precinct and was the one cop in the city who cared about cyclists enough to chew out his reports for parking in that little protected lane behind the Doughnut Plant building, and would always make sure that it was shoveled of snow in the winter.

A few years later he was found in his car on Long Island, dead of an "apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head". Something something the only good cop...

Anyone else remember that?

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Coquill t1_iykqemh wrote

That is alarming. Do you have a link? I frequent that path

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freeradicalx t1_iyksnnv wrote

The Newday article about his death actually made mention of his community-minded street changes in the last few paragraphs: https://www.newsday.com/long-island/michael-ameri-nypd-inspector-found-dead-on-li-cops-say-q90719

You'll find a bunch more articles if you google his name, he had been a degree or two away from a corruption probe several months prior so that's always mentioned as a possible factor, though he himself was not a subject of any investigation. It was all fishy as fuck.

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williamwchuang t1_iyiguzq wrote

NYPD: we can't arrest the guy who was caught on video murdering a roomful of children because our officers didn't see it happen.

EDIT: Sorry! Just a hypothetical! Cops arrest people based on witness testimony and video/pictures all the time.

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3B854 t1_iyipbc7 wrote

What?

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OHYAMTB t1_iyivslm wrote

The point is that it’s a stupid excuse. The cops don’t need to physically witness a crime to make an arrest, but they use it as an excuse

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Mrmilkymilkster t1_iyj11yo wrote

No, it’s legality. Penal law misdemeanors and felonies don’t need to be personally observed by a police officer, hence testimony and video evidence. Violations are not the same thing. They are generally minor infractions, falling below the level of misdemeanor, which need to be observed by a police officer.

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Jahaza t1_iyk5761 wrote

This appears to be incorrect. CPL § 140.10 requires that a petty offense be witnessed by the officer for an arrest to be made, but it doesn't say the same about the issuance of a ticket. And People v Boback (23 N.Y.2d 189 (N.Y. 1968)), a NY Appellate Division court held that a traffic ticket could be issued based on information and belief.

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Mrmilkymilkster t1_iyk5gi1 wrote

Oh they can issue a ticket for anything, it will get thrown out immediately by nyc judges. I assume that has more to do with issuing a summons over the summons being upheld. I think you’d need to post the entire case for full context.

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a87k t1_iyk8fl6 wrote

Summonses are in lieu of arrest. It’s tantamount to the same thing in the eyes of the law.

felonies and misdemeanors require a burden of proof known as “probable cause.” violations and infractions must be observed.

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Jahaza t1_iykcgt8 wrote

Feel free to read the actual case law that contradicts you.

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a87k t1_iykgsru wrote

So I like that you’re on the right track but the issue lies with the courts. An officer can not submit a summons returnable to a court based on an accumulation of evidence without the presence of expert testimony in court regarding this. At the time of this case law the criminal court handled this case thus it was proceeded by a prosecutor who could call upon an expert witness. This is not done in NYC therefor there is a statement which essentially overrides the Case law.

“I personally observed the commission of the offense charged herein. False statements made herein are punishable as a Class A Misdemeanor pursuant to section 210.45 of the Penal Law. Affirmed under penalty of law.”

In NYS moving violations are returnable to the DMV TVB which an officer must have a burden of proof of “Clear and Convincing Evidence” based exclusively on their observation.

Parking violations are essentially fines sent direct to the Dept of Finance. I’m sure they have a judge somewhere but hearings are direct with an administrative law judge. Therefor personal observation is necessary, as well as generally immediate service of complaint.

OATHs (civil court summonses) DO allow for ticketing based on non observance. One of the most common is “failure to yield to a pedestrian” when it is determined a motorist struck a pedestrian in the crosswalk when the driver had green and pedestrian had a walk signal.

State troopers upstate DO issue moving summonses based on conclusions arrived at during accidents but these are jurisdictions that have their summonses returned to a local criminal court.

In summation. Local courts created summonses which are legal complaints (exception of OATH) which state on the complaint that the issuer did personally observe. If an officer endorsed it, it violates CPL 210.45 which constitutes perjury.

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avd706 t1_iykkksl wrote

You're on the right track but a little confused in terminology.

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avd706 t1_iykkevc wrote

Summonses are invitations to appear in court.

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Croweslen t1_iyle6df wrote

Summonses that are violations, such as disorderly conduct, or any other offense outlined in the penal code as a violation Not parking summonses or any other city administrative code.

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Ok_Example7725 t1_iyk2z2n wrote

And the program where you can report idling trucks by uploading a video? Is that not a minor infraction?

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Mrmilkymilkster t1_iyk3cdl wrote

They manipulated their way around the NY State Constitution with those things. Like red light cameras and speed cameras, they ticket the vehicle not the person driving it.

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3B854 t1_iyivxhc wrote

Oh i thought this exact situation happened. But yes it’s on brand for the nypd

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stork38 t1_iyjmg2a wrote

That's....not how any of this works, and anybody upvoting you is a knucklehead

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iyjkle0 wrote

I think it'd be highly unpopular to allow cops to issue summons for any violation they have not witnessed.

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williamwchuang t1_iyjqwl9 wrote

We do that all the time when there's a photo, such as the red light cameras.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iyig71u wrote

>“We as officers can only write summonses to vehicles we personally observe — not a picture,” said Souffrant

That's actually a legit argument because the summons requires the officer to attest to personally observing the covered plate.

But since the attorney got arrested, if the attorney later introduces those photos as evidence, and that's accepted by the court, can't the police use that evidence to issue the violation to the driver retroactively?

I think the driver would also have to attest to what was damaged in the first place, and by doing so, admit that the plate was covered, right?

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Oslopa t1_iyim6db wrote

I think the point is more that the cops specifically avoid looking for these infractions. You can’t issue the ticket if you didn’t witness the infraction? Fine, whatever. But then respond to the 311 or issue the tickets when you do witness the infraction. Why do you think these drivers are so confident in their scofflaw approach, anyway?

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iyj5vwp wrote

From the article, it seems that the issue is the lack of personnel to respond to 311 calls appropriatelly.

>“The problem is there isn’t an additional set of officers, … so in terms of priority, we’re gonna respond to [a 911 call] first and then once we’re done we eventually return and respond to the 311,” said Souffrant.

I think the solution is to have more people who have the power to issue summons?

On another post we had officers with guns to check fare evasion. I don't think a full blown cop should be needed to issue a citation.

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PKMKII t1_iyja8l9 wrote

If only there was a division of the police that was charged with handling just traffic and vehicle related issues and not the whole spectrum of police responsibilities

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nonlawyer t1_iyjgkst wrote

Maybe we could call them “The Police Who are Charged with Handing Just Traffic and Vehicle-Related Issues And Not The Whole Spectrum of Police Responsibilities”

Or “TPWACWHJTAVRIANTWSOPR” for short

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_iyk891b wrote

But god forbid you’re within coughing distance of a fire hydrant and traffic will write you before you even step out of the car. They just stand around make traffic worse than actually write people that deserve it.

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Oslopa t1_iyjaqpf wrote

Yeah, uh-huh, like I believe a word out of a cop’s mouth.

This is just a way to dodge responsibility. If personnel were a problem, they wouldn’t falsify public records by closing 311 calls out so quickly as “no issue observed.”

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iyjbip4 wrote

>“no issue observed.”

lol, that may be factually true, but it doesn't say they didn't send any person to try to observe it.

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TeamMisha t1_iyjkaew wrote

There were reports by Streetsblog if I recall of 311s getting closed in minutes while the complainant was still watching the offending vehicles. I suspect both cases happen, officers close a case without doing any action (such as observing), and they are so delayed they do drive by at some point and the original issue is gone.

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Jahaza t1_iyk3wry wrote

They regularly falsify 311 call records. They say they responded and the offender was gone or that no action was necessary when the condition is still observable.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_iyikgmw wrote

It's real. It says this on a summons:

>I personally observed the commission of the offense charged herein.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iyilbb3 wrote

That tracks: https://www.nycourts.gov/mysummons-nyc/Summons.pdf

>I personally observed the commission of the offense charged herein. False statements made herein are punishable as a Class A Misdemeanor pursuant to section 210.45 of the Penal Law. Affirmed under penalty of law.

So if the officer attested to that falsely he/she would be committing a misdemeanor.

I've edited my original comment to reflect the above.

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyintm8 wrote

No because the officer would still need to state they observed the original violation personally. Photos of a violation even if used as court evidence would not enable an officer to issue the summons

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HalfDryGlass t1_iym0k9y wrote

So why do we have so many speed cameras auto ticketing cars?

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NetQuarterLatte t1_iym6nd1 wrote

Good question.

Is there a specific legislation that enables tickets to be issued based on speed camera evidence?

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vxr1 t1_iymmyp5 wrote

What about speed/red light/toll cameras?

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TegrityBoots t1_iyiwae5 wrote

Just call his cell phone a "traffic cam" and that should fix it.

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l1vefrom215 t1_iyj14bc wrote

The NYPD will be their own downfall. My view of police took a nose dive after having experience with them. I once was just looking at the light bar of a cruiser (it was a novel one) and I had a cop stare me down and come knock on my window and ask “what my problem was” and then was told to “move along” while I was stuck in bumper to bumper traffic. I’ve also seen NYPD yell and threaten people who were 50 feet away filming an arrest.

Don’t get me started on all the police that park wherever they want. . . NYPD has no integrity.

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CTDubs0001 t1_iyj4mnr wrote

Yup. Nobody likes a hypocrite. And you can’t demand respect, you have to earn it. They need to start by following the laws they are supposed to enforce instead of this ‘rules for thee, not for me’ attitude they’ve had in NYC for decades. It starts with the little stuff. Park legally. Wear a mask in the subways when you’re supposed to. Don’t double park for your donut. Follow the rules themselves and I think they’d see more New Yorkers giving them genuine respect, and real credibility along with it.

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specialcommenter t1_iyk5m1y wrote

Similar happened to me. I was showing a friend how to spot an unmarked Ford Taurus. Pointing to the strobe in the grill, the “federal” steel wheels and then pretty much what you said happened.

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drpvn t1_iyii1h0 wrote

Sorry I can’t get past “famed bike lawyer”

Bike law!

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Wowzlul t1_iyiysqo wrote

One would think that you could build a boutique practice around PI for bicycle accidents.

Maybe not that exclusively but doesn't seem that strange to me.

edit: This is the guy, right?

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zeroshits t1_iyiq5x7 wrote

The lawyer is not the famous one, they just represent famed bikes.

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paisleycatperson t1_iyiq6kw wrote

They need to personally observe the crime, so they shouldn't have arrested him, they did not observe the defacing.

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a87k t1_iyk963r wrote

Sigh. Criminal mischief(property damage) is a misdemeanor/felony. It requires no direct observation but rather an officer can reach probably cause based on evidence. Violations or infractions must be personally observed.

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Omegarocks t1_iyis37h wrote

Wrong , they have to observe a violation not a crime . Try again

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iamlejo t1_iyixlzh wrote

🤡

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Omegarocks t1_iyptkyi wrote

People love to complain not knowing the law . There’s a big difference between a violation and a crime. I could walk up to you and spit in your face and not get arrested for it because it’s not a crime

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Hairy_Necessary6700 t1_iyj2tyf wrote

Can we aggregate pictures of these license plates? Present it as a package? To show how big the problem is?

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TeamMisha t1_iyjl5jj wrote

The whole case is ridiculous. Officers use discretion all the time, like give a driver a warning for speeding, how these officers took this seriously, over pennies worth of plastic, that was removed and not even damaged afaik, is crazy to me. If I responded to this I would have laughed, asked the driver are they okay? And left. Cops do not even respond to potential multi-thousand dollar damage fender benders anymore unless someone was imaged, but this driver got them to the scene in record time, okay...

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epicxownage t1_iyizz59 wrote

Real estate developers are jealous of the amount of corruption the NYPD gets away with

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grandzu t1_iylds8z wrote

FIFA is jealous of the amount of corruption the NYPD gets away with.

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FunneyBonez t1_iyjyqyj wrote

Serious question—how can we have people like this removed from their position of power? The lack of common sense leaving this guys mouth, that is the captain of this precinct is scary. For crying out loud…they can’t even arrest a person that killed a woman’s dog! What more proof do you need?! NYC policing needs serious reform, and sometimes it feels like such a long way until we get there. Trusting police with any shred of help or common sense is a thing of the past, which is a scary (and infuriating) thing to think about.

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stewartm0205 t1_iyjb2is wrote

BS. A portion of 311 calls should be answered. Assign a few patrol cars to it. No precinct is so busy that all the cops are answering 911 calls 24/7. The Percentage of 311 calls investigated should be on the Mayor’s and Commissioner’s morning reports.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_iyk0bqt wrote

There are 30k 911 calls a day in NYC. Thats pretty busy.

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grandzu t1_iyldwf9 wrote

Yet they responded to one about a vandalism to a license plate?

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iliveoffofbagels t1_iymaom7 wrote

I don't think it's weird to respond to 1 call about vandalism. They have to respond to some of those calls... it's bound to be one. That's the most reasonable expectation.

I do think it's suspicious as fuck that the call for "vandalism" is simply someone removing trash coincidentally obscuring information on the license plate.

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stewartm0205 t1_iytx1jq wrote

We should look into why so many 911 calls. 30K calls a day is about 11 million a year. That’s about a call per person.

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beagle_bathouse t1_iym9rt2 wrote

They'll just lie like they do now and close the complaint 10 minutes later stating they checked and didn't observe any violation.

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stewartm0205 t1_iyty6m6 wrote

Check the percentage, if 50% or greater then set up stings.

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jjd13001 t1_iyks0i7 wrote

NYPD has become a fucking joke

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muderphudder t1_iyj3iyv wrote

NYPD organizational reform or bust next election cycle.

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TheNotoriousTravis t1_iyjb35y wrote

I went to these guys when I had a bike accident and being harassed by the cars insurance company. Super great guys, nothing came of it but genuine people that made an impression on me.

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CultofCedar t1_iyk994n wrote

It’s crazy because if I’m not mistaken there is a totally separate court and police system for taxis. There is an actual app you can download to report things (with a picture) and surprisingly they work pretty fast and keep you up to date.

I’ve used it a bit as a cyclist but also to report them blocking emergency service ramps. They might call you to act as a witness via the phone but honestly no one I’ve reported ever really went to court. Kinda nutty considering it comes out to like a $500 fine for them blocking lanes illegally.

A similar system should be put in place with NYPD since they’ve got a much larger force than the taxi branch. I mean if they don’t want to do the leg work I’m sure there’s tons of regular citizens that can start it off like this lawyer.

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grandzu t1_iyldccw wrote

Cops are a joke except when it concerns themselves.

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InterscholasticPea t1_iyly0ti wrote

“He claimed that White “did break something that was on the vehicle,” though White has said he did nothing but remove a piece of plastic that was covering the plate.”

Can you imagine calling 911 when someone bumps your car or make a scratch your car in NYC? 911 would probably hang up on you let alone sending a police to arrest you. Would love to see this going to court. That something isn’t part of the car.

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littlemac564 t1_iyklb67 wrote

I call 311 for city services ie sanitation, no heat or hot water. 911 is for the police. The license plate is bs. I don’t understand why the District Attorney did not refuse to prosecute on their end. I hope the judge reams everyone a new hole for wasting the court’s time. Unless there is more to this story than the news is giving us?

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_iyl76g3 wrote

How do you go through life saying things that stupid and delusional?

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barweis t1_iyke9m3 wrote

Defeatest attitude of pissed off cops gets adjustment and they cannot accept it preferring to stay in their dudgeon. Cops blatantly ignore heinous scofflaw refusing to issue ticket. Instead they turn around to attack the 'messenger'.

Cops Arrest Famed Bike Lawyer For Fixing a Driver’s Obscured License Plate

By Julianne Cuba Nov 14, 2022 25 COMMENTS

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/11/14/cops-arrests-bike-lawyer-for-fixing-a-drivers-obscured-license-plate/

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Dont_mute_me_bro t1_iyqqhcz wrote

Lawyers should know what every street punk does: Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

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stork38 t1_iyjm8fd wrote

Must be time for the daily streetsblog clickbait post

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geronimoquince t1_iyka8dp wrote

So he decided to mess with someone's car. While they were sitting in the car. Then waited for the police to show up.

Karen no longer cuts it. We need a new word for this guy.

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyifxyp wrote

Wasnt this guy actively going around and fucking with cars….while also blogging about it?

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Lucas_NYC t1_iyih4u6 wrote

When you say ‘this guy’ you know that’s Adam White, NYC’s #1 bike lawyer, right?

The NYPD is definitely going to lose this case, might take a while though.

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyij1id wrote

Is that name supposed to have any meaning to me? Are you his publicist?

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Lucas_NYC t1_iyilj0x wrote

No, I have no idea who you are or if you even live in the city.

Adam White is well known in the NYC cyclist community: www.vaccaroandwhite.com

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyimh1b wrote

So why does his cycling status grant him the freedom to tamper with people property?

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myassholealt t1_iyiny2o wrote

You afraid he's gonna remove your license plate covering and you'll get a surprise ticket in the mail or something?

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyiod0r wrote

Dont have one and never have. But i dont trust this nutjob not to go running around tampering with plates or just cars in general.

You cyclists have a screw loose

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ITAVTRCC t1_iyivjek wrote

Lmao psycho drivers are going around concealing their plates so they can speed, run red lights, not pay tolls and park illegally and your issue is with the people actually doing something to address the issue, which the police insist on ignoring. Hope you’re not the next person killed by some asshole with obscured plates!

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyixwgi wrote

More likely to get hit by a cyclist blowing through red lights

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ITAVTRCC t1_iyiy6va wrote

Source? Even if what you just said is true, which it isn’t, please bring up the fatality statistics or STFU

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyiyko7 wrote

If i get hit by a cyclist and dont die that doesnt mean it didnt happen.

If some cyclist speeds into a parked car and causes thousands in damages thats still a problem. Both situations ive dealt with.

Frankly cyclists and cycling culture are kind of toxic

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ITAVTRCC t1_iyiypej wrote

So you don’t have a source for the claim you just pulled out of your ass, got it.

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jm14ed t1_iyizbq4 wrote

That was pretty clear from the start, though, right?

The folks that are upset that the lawyer isn’t still in jail for looking at a car the wrong way aren’t the brightest bulbs.

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyizacw wrote

Its more than the wild hyperbole you present. Screeching that plate covers are running around killing us all isnt a source for anything.

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ITAVTRCC t1_iyj0d29 wrote

There is literally no lawful/innocent reason to cover your plates, and I’m really sorry if that fact hurts your feelings. As I said before, sure hope you’re not the next NYer to die from out of control drivers. Peace ✌🏻

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Crimsonwolf1445 t1_iyj1lbo wrote

Theres not lawful/innocent reason to take it upon yourself to tamper with people property. Make sure to stop at red lights and follow vtl like you are legally mandated to

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drpvn t1_iyilgzs wrote

You do realize I’m Charlie Kelly, Philadelphia’s #1 bird lawyer, right? I’m well-known in the Philly bird community.

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N7777777 t1_iyinnc9 wrote

At first I assumed you were being facetious. But glad I checked.

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D14DFF0B t1_iyj0m4c wrote

Fucking with cars? He was peeling stickers off defaced plates. GTFO

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Die-Nacht t1_iyj20qs wrote

No. That's a journalist who started a series to show how insane this is.

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No_Tax5256 t1_iyigb5s wrote

You cant touch someones property, and remove something that doesnt belong to you. Why are bike riders so entitled?

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jm14ed t1_iyihdtd wrote

A license plate is the property of the state.

I haven’t heard a complaint from them, have you? I think they would be more interested in the person who obscured their property in the first place.

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Oslopa t1_iyilv0l wrote

Why are drivers so entitled to think that they shouldn’t have to pay tolls or be on the hook for camera-enforced tickets?

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No_Tax5256 t1_iyisxh8 wrote

I have an idea. How about we put license plates on bicycles, and new bike cameras at every intersection. Every time a biker passes a red light, or rides on the wrong side of the street, we mail a $50 ticket to their house. See how quickly you change your tune, lmao!

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Oslopa t1_iyiv84w wrote

So what you’re saying is you think drivers should be able to skip tolls and run red lights?

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No_Tax5256 t1_iyiwrw4 wrote

I generally think that it should be free to use a public road or bridge. You cool with putting license plates on bikes, and cameras in all the bike lanes? :)

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Oslopa t1_iyixeca wrote

I won’t answer your questions if you won’t answer mine.

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ITAVTRCC t1_iyiweus wrote

The fuck? I have been issued a ticket for running a red light on my bike. Sounds like you are just a grossly irresponsible driver, but the difference between us that you are 1000x more likely to kill someone in your car.

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higmy6 t1_iyio3uf wrote

How can you be this dumb? 🤣

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jm14ed t1_iyiu591 wrote

Poor educational system or they just like whippets a lot..

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archfapper t1_iyjfhdz wrote

> You cant touch someones property

License plates belong to NYSDMV, they're not the property of the owner

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