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ViVi_NYC t1_j0v45n8 wrote

hahahaha, thanks for the accolades mate! Wait till you come to London and that will supersede NYC's benchmark you've built up :)

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AceContinuum t1_j0v5e2i wrote

>Wait till you come to London and that will supersede NYC's benchmark you've built up :)

Not necessarily. The Tube still shuts down at night most of the week (even with Friday-and-Saturday-nights-only Night Tube finally coming back this July after an over 2-year shutdown). Many of us are routinely on the NYC subway well after the Tube shuts down.

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spillitkins1 t1_j0v9i5s wrote

Fair point on the night tube/train but I would still argue London’s night bus and bus infrastructure is better than NYC. The night bus system is pretty solid and in my experience felt safer than most NYC buses at that time of night.

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AceContinuum t1_j0vc8sd wrote

I agree on the bus infrastructure point. NYC's buses are hugely dysfunctional. Though the express buses are pretty solid (and actually operate best late at night when there's less traffic!).

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Arleare13 t1_j0v6dhm wrote

Ehh, I wouldn't say that London's is objectively better. It's cleaner, sure. But it doesn't run overnight, and is more expensive (sometimes substantially so) for all but the shortest trips.

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Lurnmoshkaz t1_j0velwe wrote

Other than the fact that it's not 24/7, London's metro and bus infrastructure is way better than New York's. I'd say comparing to European standards, New York is pretty mediocre. Downright bad if you're Swiss or Dutch.

Outdated tech. Tons of delays/cancelled trains. Super, super super fucking dirty, and certainly not as expansive (super dense connections in Manhattan and downtown Brooklyn and queens, but non-existent in areas like deep queens like Bayside or fresh Meadows, Staten island and so on).

New York's public transportation is only impressive if your standards are American.

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snowbeast93 t1_j0vj95h wrote

NYC has the most stations of any network in the world lol

More and more lines are getting CBTC with automated trains, similar to London

NYC has more accessible stations than London, not to mention all of our stations and rolling stock feature level boarding, which is not true of the tube

I think you’re heavily biased against NYC. Fine to have criticisms, but I think some of your critiques are overstated. For example, South London is famously underserved by the Underground just like parts of the outer boroughs, and I truly believe that the dirtiness of the subway is blown completely out of proportion. We also have newer trains, and all of them feature air conditioning. Ever been on a deep level tube train in the summer? It’s hell

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Arleare13 t1_j0w2j33 wrote

Paris still has multiple lines where you have to manually open the train door at stations. But no, outdated tech is a uniquely American issue, apparently.

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Arleare13 t1_j0vfygh wrote

I'm sorry that us ignorant Americans have such low standards compared to you enlightened Europeans.

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myassholealt t1_j0vf30r wrote

The amount of areas serviced (even acknowledging the subway desert neighborhoods) and 24 hour access, to me, is the distinguishing feature that makes MTA the most convenient. I've never been to London, but I do visit DC often and use the metro. Coming home after seeing a show at echostage, or going to a bar with friends, the metro is not an option. If I'm staying in the sorta equivalent of the "outer boroughs", the metro is not an option.

I'm also wondering if the Nats have a late extra-innings game, does the nearby line run a few extra trains past the last scheduled train of the night? I'm guessing not, but am curious.

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LegalManufacturer916 t1_j0xp95l wrote

I don't know if it's cleaner, they got fabric seats, god knows what's in there. Also, I'm here to say that real subways are 24hrs.

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