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-wnr- t1_j089fuo wrote

Hopefully she doesn't manage to cut a deal to completely avoid prison. SBF is the big fish, but she was still CEO of the company that promised unrealistic returns and took stolen FTX customer funds to make high risk investments.

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bittoxic00 t1_j08d9jm wrote

Her personal margin account was said to be negative 1.5 billion with a ‘B’. She 100% gambled with customer funds and likely has a couple cold storage wallets for the future. If she gets off scott free it’ll be insane

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amsync t1_j0apxaq wrote

Kids playing with dad's toys is what all of this is. Just insane.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j0bl1k8 wrote

>likely has a couple cold storage wallets for the future

Same with SBF.

With the way these people were purposely (and admittedly) misusing billions in other people's money, it isn't hard to imagine the top players stashed some of it aside.

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sanjsrik t1_j08zwaf wrote

Crocodile tears and a "he tricked me into doing bad things, I'm just a woman" defense.

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Saladcitypig t1_j0b8cgs wrote

It's possible to want people to be held accountable for their misdeeds without being sexist. When you say things like this, as you can see from your responses, men are more than willing to add sticks to the fire of sexist bs.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j0bknak wrote

It isn't sexist to point out that this is a realistic defense strategy scenario should Ellison be indicted.

For one, we just saw literally the same strategy used by Elizabeth Holmes in one of the most high-profile fraud trials in recent history.

Secondly, that is basically the only defense Ellison would have, short of claiming complete and total ignorance (which wouldn't legally absolve her of guilt or blame).

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Saladcitypig t1_j0bm3tz wrote

You are putting too much faith in the "I'm just a woman" commenter.

I don't believe that was good faith. I doubt your comment is to, considering you gloss over that. The defense strats are in themselves a product of sexism and defense law is nothing if not dirty, it uses bigotry as a manipulation tool.

Someone can very easily point at a strat while disingenuously ALSO shitting on women because that is literally the majority of troll comments on any topic where a woman is involved. You can pretend it's not, but then you'd be naive, or you're simply employing that strat yourself.

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sanjsrik t1_j0fj0w1 wrote

Literally watch this be her defense. I will stake money on it.

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Saladcitypig t1_j0fywwa wrote

and again you talking not about HER, but about her DEFENSE TEAM of LAWYERS, who very clearly know the world is incredibly sexist and use that cynically.

You are virtually being snotty about the nice suit lawyers make convicted killers wear in court, as if it says something about all men who are convicted of killing. "Hur dur, look at that man again, wearing a suit in court, pretending he didn't kill someone... men be like." Silly.

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sanjsrik t1_j0gau2p wrote

The client says what they are willing to do regardless of what the lawyer's advice is. Ultimately it is up to the client what defense they present.

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Saladcitypig t1_j0gf6j7 wrote

lol oh ok. You don't know what you're talking about, now it's clear.

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sanjsrik t1_j0gs0jv wrote

And you think being a white knight will get you more than you deserve.

Keep being delusional.

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Saladcitypig t1_j0h1say wrote

When a person says the phrase "White knight" it's one of the many nails in their coffin of credibility.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j0bka63 wrote

Same shit happened in the Theranos trial.

The all-powerful "girl boss" claimed she was in over her head and manipulated by her former boyfriend/company president.

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UnusualAd6529 t1_j0bobhz wrote

She literally got 11 years in prison bro

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j0bpjbv wrote

That doesn't refute anything I said, which is the factual statement that Holmes used a defense strategy of pretending to be a victim manipulated by her ex.

I never claimed such a stupid strategy would actually work, just that it is a predictable one.

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UnusualAd6529 t1_j0bt3x1 wrote

What I mean is that there is no reason to make statements like this other than to disparage these people as woman.

Don't get me wrong they should rot in a cell but people use this as an opportunity to express their sexist hatred lol.

The courts aren't stupid and won't let you off just because you get pregnant or make puppy dog eyes at them.

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BiblioPhil t1_j0e0lp6 wrote

The system is rigged in favor or women, bro. That's why all those incompetent female candidates are winning presidential elections over their qualified male opponents.

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NY08 t1_j09vzvy wrote

Works every time.

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Wowzlul t1_j0cbh52 wrote

Didn't work for Elizabeth Holmes.

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atget t1_j0idyq2 wrote

Also, this kind of shit definitely falls under the old dating "rule" of "be attractive, don't be unattractive."

It didn't work for Elizabeth Holmes, but it definitely won't work for Caroline Ellison. Elizabeth Holmes looks like Miss Universe compared to Caroline Ellison.

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SBAPERSON t1_j0a5e9x wrote

If she whistle blows SBFs cash doesn't she get some lol

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civilityman t1_j0afwk0 wrote

This is well beyond the point of whistle blowing. She’s in the feed him to the lions phase of criminal conspiracy

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awayish t1_j096x7u wrote

i mean these same customers were also long on crypto, the exact strat that blew up alameda. no tears shed for anyone involved. it's good that this stuff is firewalled off from actual functional finance.

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Warpedme t1_j0bjrcf wrote

I have zero pity for anyone who lost money on crypto. It was legal gambling all along and we kept telling everyone that. It's a scam and always was.

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drpvn t1_j07ys7w wrote

Margaret McPoyle?

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Guypussy t1_j08ju2q wrote

Bump it. 🤜🏻

I’m not bumping your fist.

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thebruns t1_j09iu1k wrote

I still dont understand how someone can be a billionaire and not be dating at minimum a professional model

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tondracek t1_j0afhxu wrote

There aren’t that many wildly intelligent people who choose to be models so you’d first have to find a few, then find one you’re interested in. Sounds complicated

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Careful_Apricot_2822 t1_j097r6v wrote

I hope she starts dating Pete Davidson

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raysofdavies t1_j09qaxh wrote

She’s got her deli ticket for it, let the system work

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NY08 t1_j09vuqb wrote

He dates celebrity 9s.

Not a nerdy 2.

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md702 t1_j08hwbz wrote

She deserves to go to jail every bit as much as sbf. She was an accomplice.

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jay5627 t1_j08uejm wrote

Do they really need someone to flip? Hasn't he basically admitted to fraud in the interviews he has done recently

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PhillyFreezer_ t1_j08w6sn wrote

Very different to beating A+ lawyers in front of a jury who doesn’t know shit about Crypto or finance lol

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qdpb t1_j095vkq wrote

How is it very different?

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PhillyFreezer_ t1_j09wuyn wrote

He’s got really good lawyers and would be in from to a jury. They’ll spend half the trial explaining what crypto is before they can even get to the evidence of why he was committing fraud.

Go look at his interviews recently. Finance speak for a shmuck like me doesn’t make sense at all, so it’s very hard to tell when he’s lying and when he’s not. That’s my fear at least. His lawyers are very good at their jobs

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Swagyolodemon t1_j0aajld wrote

He’s screwed homie. He’s been a dead man walking for a while. His counsel is likely going to spend the whole time arguing his ignorance but the facts are overwhelming.

Edit: Should add that the DOJ are going to bring just as good, if not better, lawyers. There are some incredibly talented attorneys that work for them.

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InterscholasticPea t1_j0b1l7c wrote

If I were the judge, I would skip the crypto part. Who cares what assets FTX is holding? He failed at being a custodian of customer funds and move them to a trading firm in which he owns majority.

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Swagyolodemon t1_j0cdu2h wrote

It’s also just not that pertinent of an issue. The questions are whether he lied to shareholders and customers.

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InterscholasticPea t1_j0cf1ec wrote

Agreed. My point is the tech (crypto, blockchain technology) has nothing to do with the suppose fraud except it’s an asset and mechanism for transport

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LearnProgramming7 t1_j0ahzxk wrote

Bro that would bore the jurors to tears. That is a very poor litigation strategy.

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JackMeHoff266 t1_j0a0d42 wrote

Depends if that confession can be admissible in court. I’d assume that his lawyers will argue against that being a credible confession or admission. Flipping someone would build a stronger case against SBF

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jay5627 t1_j0a51sf wrote

Why wouldn't it be admissible? It was for public consumption

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JackMeHoff266 t1_j0ellom wrote

That’s not for me to decide- most likely his lawyers will try to prevent that interview from being used as evidence in court. I’m guessing they would argue that it’s not a formal confession or it may have been misleading.

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aviciiavbdeadpunk t1_j08a7a7 wrote

she became a billionaire by using the sorting hat in harry poter

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SimmerDownRizzo t1_j08klea wrote

We have enough rats in the city already. No thanks.

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invertedal t1_j08ipqv wrote

NYPost: "Let's cover a really important story, but do it in the stupidest way imaginable!"

For more thoughtful reporting, see this article.

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sanjsrik t1_j0900wy wrote

Isn't that the definition of the NY post?

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bluebus440 t1_j0a784b wrote

Happy to call the NY Post a shit rag.

But posting something that was published a month ago and comparing it to what the NY Post just posted isn't even comparable..

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invertedal t1_j0bwgsn wrote

Comparing it isn't even comparable? Um, OK, if you say so, but the Post's focus on the sex life of Bankman-Fried's ex-girlfriend does call for some sort of antidote, given the importance of this case in terms of the billions of dollars stolen, and more significantly, in terms of where that money went.

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bluebus440 t1_j0dy1rd wrote

Truly wtf are you even talking about dude. I didn't read anything about their sex life. SBF's ex girlfriend is an important person in the whole investigation with FTX as the former CEO of Alameda Research.

You posted something a month old that's talking about Ukraine and SBF from the Gray Zone whatever the fuck that is

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invertedal t1_j0e94q2 wrote

Yeah, the text of the NYPost article is just the usual crime-and-punishment stuff, but the video for it, which gets blasted at you as soon as you go to the article, does indeed focus on her sex life. Take my word for it - or go watch the video yourself if you must, but I don't recommend it.

The Grayzone does investigative journalism. Among people who are interested in that sort of thing, it is pretty well known.

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gghardstick123 t1_j097jjh wrote

Shit if I see her in nyc I’ll take back some of those investments

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Tbh_idk______ t1_j085ok3 wrote

Think she’ll be charged with sth?

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EQTone t1_j08lcr7 wrote

Gross

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w4rp3dl0g1c t1_j0abc0k wrote

I wonder if she’s going to get the six nine treatment lol

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Jimmy_kong253 t1_j0aw6cc wrote

She needs to be locked up along with him

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bsanchey t1_j09pi8y wrote

She sang like a canary

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squeakycleaned t1_j0bm1r3 wrote

Fuck this bitch. Put ‘em all behind bars.

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lupuscapabilis t1_j0cmwb7 wrote

When your dad is friends with the SEC chairman, you get protection.

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MarketMan123 t1_j0mp3id wrote

Aren’t we all sort of his ex?

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Blackspeare29 t1_j09v8ln wrote

Let’s hope she can make up in other ways to her being cosmetically challenged!!

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NY08 t1_j09w560 wrote

She’ll get off free

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