I think you’re going to say that Bolt pays less than MTA, but I wasn’t saying they didn’t. I was saying (in this instance) MTA drivers accepted the job based on the total benefits. It doesn’t matter that they could find a worse job elsewhere. We all could, yet we work where we work and expect to get paid what was promised to us.

No that’s wrong. These other professions also made less than they would be willing to accept from the private employers, but the generous retirement benefits convinced them to work for the city.

I get what you see when you're driving. I just don't understand why that's relevant. Do you think the behavior you see allows you to run red lights? Or why are you recounting these anecdotes?

Here we go again. They don't have a strong cause and effect on each other. Drivers don't kill 300 New Yorkers a year because of jaywalking or pedestrians staring at the phones.

I don't know if you're doing a bit at this point, but it's frankly offensive how over and over you're trying to assign the responsibility for driving responsibly to the people who are not in the car.

I'm sure this happens, but again, you're trying to equate two things are are not comparable. About 300 people die each year in New York from cars, and about 0 people die each year in New York from jaywalking. These are different things, on a different scale.

I'm not saying jaywalking is good, of course we should all look both ways and everything. I'm saying it is nothing compared to running red lights in a car. One has nothing to do with another, and one of them is a serious offense, while the other one is a nuissance.

It's not that owning a car doesn't make you immune from getting hit; it's me not owning a car does make me immune from hitting someone with it. You're saying no one gives a fuck about the rules, but the consequences of a driver not giving a fuck are so much more dire than anyone else not giving a fuck, that by wrapping drivers into the category of "no one", you're excusing them. And they don't have the excuse, they're the only ones with a power of unleashing 2 tons of weight on someone else.

It doesn't matter if I don't pay attention when crossing the street, running the red in your car is still exactly as wrong. You can get hit too, but you're a driver, of course you can get hit, the problem is you're putting other people in danger!

Or perhaps I just don't understand what you mean by "no one gives a fuck about the rules". Why do you think it's relevant to the problem of cars running the red lights?

Thanks man, next can you tell us about how a bill becomes law?

This is a thread about cars not stopping at red lights. Each and every one of these cars is my personal fucking enemy.

Gotta start this with pedestrians, and throw in cyclists and straphangers. Anything to excuse the only party behind the wheel of a 2 ton vehicle.

Indeed. In a normal city shit like this would never be possible. Here, just a matter of time. All that’s left is jokes :(

Hell yeah! Wish she was just a boring another woman governor, but gotta celebrate small wins, and hope that things get much better.

How is it very different?

That’s actually a street-cleaning scheme. Towing is just necessary to clean, and of course someone should pay for it.