GooFoYouPal t1_j8mokyj wrote on February 15, 2023 at 1:10 PM

Reply to comment by MarketStEl in Why Are Philly Brands Flocking to the Suburbs? by Proper-Code7794

Yeah, my initial thought is the majority of the people that will frequent these new suburban outposts are simply people that these companies wouldn’t have had anyway. And well, I do hear a lot about people increasingly not wanting to come into the city, I wonder if the influx of new residents and all the new developments are enough to compensate for that “loss.” I think people in general are probably just getting more localized in their shopping, dining choices, etc..

ColdJay64 t1_j8mxgx3 wrote on February 15, 2023 at 2:23 PM

If their only source of information on the city is this subreddit and the evening news, can you blame them? It’s perfectly safe to visit for a day of shopping, but you’d never know it if you spend all your time reading this stuff and none actually in the city.

GooFoYouPal t1_j8myg03 wrote on February 15, 2023 at 2:30 PM

Bro, with all due respect, you’re just as bad, just on the opposite end of the spectrum. You’re on here constantly invalidating and minimizing peoples concerns about the current safety conditions of this city. And I don’t think your CC Living experience is relatable to a vast majority of Philadelphia’s residents.

ColdJay64 t1_j8n2ufr wrote on February 15, 2023 at 3:01 PM

I share my perspective only on areas I traverse and experiences I've had. For example, when people are discussing the decline of the lower Northeast... I don't comment at all. Why? Because I wouldn't know, and because it seems like they are right.

If people choose to take my perspective as "invalidating" their experiences, there's not much I can do - though it's not my intention at all. I do contest broad statements that I disagree with such as "it's not safe to walk around CC" or "CC is entirely vacant" if that's what you mean. I likely spend more time there than almost anyone commenting, and have for the last few years.

Agreed that my experience of living in Center City and now Point Breeze is not the same as someone living in another area.

RowdySuperBigGulp t1_j8nwdfc wrote on February 15, 2023 at 6:16 PM

My experience with the lower NE is it’s more quiet than it’s ever been . I can sit out all night and not hear a pin drop or walk my dog and the neighbors all wave and say hi but I come on here and find out I’m living in a hellhole .

ColdJay64 t1_j8o0n3j wrote on February 15, 2023 at 6:44 PM

A perfect example of what I was talking about above with regards to people's perception of Center City/shopping there. I can speak to its conditions at great length being there daily. Meanwhile my own perception of your area is that it's not good, based on Reddit and the news but little actual experience. The only difference is, I'm open to being educated on what I don't know instead of doubling down on it and labeling you.

courageous_liquid t1_j8nkcwc wrote on February 15, 2023 at 4:59 PM

lmao

LFKhael t1_j8mz43v wrote on February 15, 2023 at 2:35 PM

>you’re just as bad,

Fucking wooooow.

JBizznass t1_j8nmg5i wrote on February 15, 2023 at 5:13 PM

I’ll add my personal anecdote here: I lived in Fishtown and worked downtown. Moved to the western burbs during covid and mostly work from home, but go to various parts of the city for work about 3 times a week. But I don’t really shop or eat in the city anymore since it’s more expensive (various taxes) and less convenient form me. I do however go to the suburban outposts of many of the places I used to go in the city like la Colombe, white dog, etc. If they didn’t exist in the burbs I would just be a lost customer since it it wouldn’t be worth it go into the city for them since there are other great local options. And I know lots of other folks who once were city dwellers / workers who now work from in the burbs and feel the same. It’s smart of these companies to follow their customers.

I will say that one of the big motivators for us moving to the burbs was the overall declining quality of life in the city (including, but not limited to crime), but that’s not why I wouldn’t go to a store or restaurant in the city. Now that I’m here it’s a matter of convenience. Especially since I’m the mainline area there are lots of great shopping and dining options closer to home.

Are there some whackos who won’t cross the city line for fear of being immediately murdered? Sure. But that is really a very small part of the suburban population and most of us suburbanites also think those people are crazy.