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[deleted] t1_jdaxmzg wrote

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DanHassler0 t1_jdaya82 wrote

Yup, most recently to allow for NFC open payments, which was the entire plan when Septa key was envisioned many years ago. Although in their defense technology has changed and an upgrade really isn't unexpected.

The only issue is they still haven't launched NFC open payments.

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CerealJello t1_jdclzo2 wrote

After taking the NYC subway with OMNY payment, NFC payments can't come soon enough. I just hope they don't do something stupid like in DC where you still need to pay $2 to activate a "virtual card". The $5 fee for SEPTA key cards is a joke when the cards have a set expiration date.

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DanHassler0 t1_jdcndr0 wrote

The $5 is fully refunded when you register your card. I believe you can technically do it twice, so theoretically by the time you need a third card they should be using NFC open payments.

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CerealJello t1_jdcnkep wrote

I keep two extra cards on hand for guests, and I've already had one card expire, so I'm well past the limit. This would obviously not have been an issue if we could do multiple taps. The eTix on the app kind of fixes this problem, but I haven't tried it out with multiple riders yet.

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Hanger-on t1_jdcr8fs wrote

I think you can do it for two active Key Cards per email address. I have 4 of them at home, just registered under different gmail accounts so I could get the refund.

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prettylittlearrow t1_jdds30s wrote

They stopped refunding the $5 FWIW

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DanHassler0 t1_jdi1zjj wrote

"Please note, it costs $4.95 to get a Key card. As an incentive to protect your Pass or Travel Wallet funds, against loss or theft, SEPTA offers a reimbursement when you register a new Key card. If you register your Key card within 30 days of the purchase date, the $4.95 fee will automatically be applied to your Key card Travel Wallet which can be used immediately to pay for individual rides or towards the future purchase of any pass. Limited to two cards per customer account. You can register your card online at SEPTAKey.org or by calling the Key Customer Call Center at 1-855-567-3782."

https://www.iseptaphilly.com/key#:~:text=Plus%20SEPTA%20will%20reimburse%20the,your%20Key%20card%20Travel%20Wallet.

Are you sure? The website still says they refund you.

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prettylittlearrow t1_jdni4qg wrote

I've tried a few times to register and it didn't refund me, I've had friends say the same when they tried. it's SEPTA, who knows at this point lol

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mortgagepants t1_jdcpqdn wrote

i was in dc two weeks ago. paid an extra two dollars for a 2 dollar ride. if you want people to take transit as a choice, a one time paper ticket should be an option.

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thecw t1_jdi1m52 wrote

The SEPTA Key Twitter account has been saying NFC is in testing and coming soon now that Tix is launched.

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[deleted] t1_jdbffxi wrote

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FordMaverickFan t1_jdbrt9w wrote

Yea shame that Boston, NYC, Chicago and Camden didn't have a fully functioning system before the Key RFP was even posted.

To your point no one at SEPTA suffered any consequences for the millions in overruns and missed deadlines.

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mortgagepants t1_jdcpynl wrote

this is my biggest beef too. septa has no problem hopping on the MBTA project for their double decker trains, but a fare system that will impact every rider? of course that's the time to blaze a trail.

anyone know the company who has the contract? maybe they're connected in some way with the septa board members.

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thecw t1_jdi1vbo wrote

It was originally Xerox, not sure if it still is. The big problem was that Xerox had never done a fare system before, but they were the lowest bidder.

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reggitor t1_jdc0xxs wrote

The bigger the corporation, the closer it gets to the government

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eyevarz t1_jdcl60b wrote

Gotta support small business every chance you’ve got.

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dwntwnleroybrwn t1_jdh9y4e wrote

Bullshit. Philly decision makers are borderline mentally deficit. Go to any major city around the world and you'll see technologies that can be easily leveraged. Hell, London has had phone tap to pay on busses for years.

Just another example of corrupt incompetent city leaders.

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Odd_Push_307 t1_jddmy2k wrote

I don’t think that’s the issue people have. It’s that corporations are generally spending private money. It’s kind of a majorly huge difference.

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PCPenhale t1_jdciryh wrote

And you still have to get your card scanned multiple times even though you’ve already scanned on the platform. Two things I’d love to see: Adding a septa pass to an electronic wallet, and/or paying via electronic wallet on the platform or trolley.

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thecw t1_jdi1k8o wrote

The boopers are a modular component of the gate itself.

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