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TheFAPnetwork t1_jdcc263 wrote

Seems like unions hold a lot of the city back

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MRichards18 t1_jdcj9ib wrote

Id rather have a union of actual workers have power than an overlord politician with soft hands making decision for workers. Unfortunately unions are needed.

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TheFAPnetwork t1_jdeh3w4 wrote

I don't see where a union is needed. You mention overlords but yet there's union reps and bosses.

I mean if workers rights are in question, wouldn't it be nice if workers were educated on their rights? Those rights aren't upheld by any law that has consequences when those rights are violated?

No one can give a solid answer as to why unions are needed.

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CockercombeTuff t1_jdcm9hh wrote

Are needed to do what? Tell the politicians what to do? Handpick the politicians that the voters get to choose from? Why do you want union leaders, who are not answerable to voters, to have control over city politics and over the needs and demands of the public at large?

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TheFAPnetwork t1_jdct3mp wrote

I too have a very strong opinion about unions. None of it nice.

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jengibredia t1_jde5ihu wrote

This attitude is why the US is fascist run by capitalists these days

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Hib3rnian t1_jdcgahq wrote

"..hold a lot of the city "Hostage""

I think the word you're looking for is hostage.

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ThankMrBernke t1_jdcs7u7 wrote

Me normally: "I'm a good liberal"

Me when shit like this happens: "They must get back to work"

Fucking unions, man

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nankles t1_jdctalx wrote

As Phil Ochs said:

In every American community there are varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects, ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.

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PhillyPete12 t1_jdd4d38 wrote

I’ll give the conservatives props for consistently holding out of date and close minded opinions

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bushwhack227 t1_jdgl591 wrote

Phil Ochs was a leftist, not a conservative. The above quote was the intro to his song, "Love Me, I'm a Liberal" which is a leftist critique of liberals, in the same way leftists like Sanders are critical of Pelosi, for example.

The distinction between liberals and leftists is not something that's widely understood. I would argue liberals and conservative probably have more in common with each other than do liberals and leftists. Liberals, like conservatives, believe that capitalism can be used to solve all or most problems.

The best example is probably healthcare policy. The liberal solution is Obamcare, which is very much a market-based system. The leftist solution is Medicare for all at the very least, or even an NHS-style system where practitioners are either govt employees or essentially contractors.

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jengibredia t1_jde59nl wrote

That's what bureaucrats want you to think, always pointing fingers at the union when, more often than not, it is the company refusing to treat workers right and punishing everyone for workers unionizing then they point their fingers at the union.

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