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DaKaSigma t1_jdim18z wrote

Reply to comment by Ryan1006 in Zappala threatens to keep Kennywood from opening if it doesn't comply with security demands by cooldude_4000

He’s courting suburban Democrats who think Kennywood is unsafe regardless of security. He’s taking his page from the GOP: scare people about crime to vote for you, bust don’t actually do anything about it.

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HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdiq1to wrote

>He’s taking his page from the GOP: scare people about crime to vote for you, bust don’t actually do anything about it.

Both sides of the aisle are guilty of doing this

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Current-Pianist1991 t1_jdjfc1i wrote

Going "but but but muh both sides" doesn't make it any better.

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HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdjhrg6 wrote

That would be true if I was trying to say something was acceptable, which I'm not. Merely pointing out that the "page from the GOP" comment was unnecessarily biased in this instance (and generally unnecessary in the conversation).

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Current-Pianist1991 t1_jdjiop4 wrote

I mean, both parts are unnecessary for the larger conversation. Going "haha he's copying the GOP" doesn't accomplish or contribute much (and trust me, I can't stand the GOP either). So is the "both sides" argument, and its inherently dismissive, by going "yeah but both sides do it!" Implies that if the original person WAS making a factual statement about the "GOP playbook", that it would be completely acceptable because "hey the other side is doing it too!". Overall very unproductive conversation for everyone involved and poor word choices

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throwaway01002030405 t1_jdiv0bh wrote

There are differences in scale and implications, and just saying everyone does it is unhelpful

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HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdiv7s4 wrote

Not excusing it. Just point out the bias.

Edit: there's the typical r/pittsburgh - called out bias that happened to be left-leaning and got downvoted.

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LostEnroute t1_jdj5lst wrote

Downvoted for not adding anything to the conversation, probably.

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omgwouldyou t1_jdl3on1 wrote

He might think he's doing that, admittedly. But over in the reality the "fuck Kennywood" vote block in the county is really small.

There is no constituency of any size looking for local politicians to shut down Kennywood. Meanwhile, the constituency of people who'd get pissed off is quite real.

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DaKaSigma t1_jdm791t wrote

Absolutely. He also (successfully) pushed the negative story about him from the front page. I doubt anything will come of it. He’d have to prove that Kennywood is a “nuisance,” which would be a heavy lift. But the negatives from them not opening, both for their private owners and the region as a whole (wages, taxes) would be compelling.

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JustHereForTheSaul t1_jdjgl0j wrote

>suburban Democrats who think Kennywood is unsafe regardless of security

Is this a real and substantial demographic? It's honestly the first time it's ever occurred to me to think of that as an identifiable group.

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VidGamrJ t1_jdk6svb wrote

What kind of world do you live in where everyone has to fit neatly into some little box society has made for them? Is it really so hard to believe that suburban people who vote Democrat are worried about the periodic violence at Kennywood?

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JustHereForTheSaul t1_jdkoy4k wrote

Not at all; it just hit me weird that he was naming this demographic in the same way a pollster might name "professional women over age 35". I just thought it was an unusual combination of traits to identify a group with. I dunno, looking at it again, maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was me.

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Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_jdknif4 wrote

Idk but the poll in the article says 52% feel unsafe at Kennywood which is nuts to me. But that's the same demographic reading the trib I guess.

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feed_the_bumble t1_jdjs9lk wrote

Suburbanites are the only demographic that still like him. In the last election, he got walloped in the city, by an independent to boot

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