Submitted by MilgateMafia t3_1051wnj in pittsburgh

I’m a homeowner in Bloomfield on a one way street with parking on both sides of the street. It’s permit parking 7a-7p. I’m near Children’s and some of the busier bars (Tina’s, El Sabor, Trace, etc). The city has gotten better at ticketing, but there are still a ton of people that park illegally or park like idiots on the street. It’s tough to find a spot later in the afternoons after work and in the evenings.

I know the city isn’t going to change it to 24/7 permit parking. However, why won’t the city paint parking spot lines on local streets to maximize the number of spots? I can guarantee the revenue from tickets would pay for the cost of paint and labor.

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The001Keymaster t1_j38a8yu wrote

Painting lines doesn't make more parking it makes less. That's why they don't paint lines. The lines need to be 24 feet apart by code. That number is off the top of my head without looking up the codes. I think it's correct. Most cars aren't that big. So with lines you end up with cars that have 2 feet in front and back of them wasting all that parking space. Without lines those gaps get filled in.

The illegal parking is a separate issue.

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The001Keymaster t1_j38bd0k wrote

That is true, but lines won't counter stupid people either. Sometimes that space that appears to be left is because a car left and a smaller car came. Sometimes it's because people are dumb and can't park.

Yes, sometimes without lines you get a strange half a space. Maybe a big truck left a spot and a mini Cooper parked there. There'd be extra space that's unusable.

Logistically without lines sometimes you lose space because cars vary in size. With lines you almost always lose space. It's the choice of always waste a little space or occasionally waste a bigger half space. They go with occasionally and no lines.

I'm certainly not trying to debate this. Just explaining the city's logic in why there isn't lines.

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leadfoot9 t1_j38cbw3 wrote

I have a hypothesis that DoorDash drivers specifically avoid parking within lines because it quells their conscience a bit compared to parking within the line and not paying the meter.

Also, a lot of people insist on driving a car-and-a-half. In my opinion, these people should just be forced to pay for two spots like a fat person on a plane, but I'm not dictator of Pittsburgh yet.

And speaking of Doordash, all Pittsburgh or any other urbanized municipality would need to do to rake in ticket revenue would be to focus all of their ticketing efforts from 4-8 PM instead of randomly throughout the day (including residential streets near restaurants), but the workers are probably resistant to working evenings and I don't really think there's any political will to go after parking freeloaders because they're bRiNgInG tHeIr bUsInEsS.

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1ll1l1ll1l1l1l1l1ll1 t1_j3bz41i wrote

The City could probably fund a full time parking enforcement officer with fines from illegal parking at the corner near where I live, what with parking right under a stop sign or directly in front of a fire hydrant. Enforcement is the issue. People do this crap because they get away with it.

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cmyk412 t1_j3d1vgb wrote

Also: why can’t these damn kids stay off my lawn?

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