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Stella430 t1_ivzulst wrote

Easy to spend the days in the mall where it’s warm, there’s bathrooms and maybe some food

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alfaafla t1_iw02nhu wrote

Begs the question of whether the state's existing resources are not meeting the needs of the homeless or if there are other motives for their choices. The reasons you list should be provided already and not be the responsibility of the mall. That said, who doesn't like to get out and stretch their legs and even so in colder climates?!

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Good-Expression-4433 t1_iw05k4z wrote

The shelters are increasingly packed with waiting lists and are understaffed for the volume of people coming through. Around the mall and the state house are highly visible areas and ready access to facilities. Plus their encampments have been destroyed by police in other locations, especially less visible ones.

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Stella430 t1_iw0avfs wrote

People who were housing insecure before are now homeless. The cost of housing, heat, food etc has skyrocketed. Those who were barely scraping by are now homeless

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alfaafla t1_iw1aj1w wrote

And?

What does that have to do with proper homeless shelters that offer heat, food, and a place to shit ?

This is a sub reply to a comment that noted the malls offering basic needs as the reason for the influx. The State ought to meet this minimum need if it isn't already.

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Stella430 t1_iw27aao wrote

The reason there’s an increase in homeless people in Providence (or in the US in general) is the increased cost of living. Our wages/social security etc isn’t keeping up with inflation. We need shelters even more now

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alfaafla t1_iw369ls wrote

Do you have numbers to backup that claim? You mean to tell me, as others have pointed out, that the cold weather and shelters kicking people out during the day plays no effect in homeless folks observed at the mall?

I don't buy what you say at face value as the SSA just increased it's cola payouts by 8.7 % whereas the annual inflation rate is now 7.7 - they're doing the complete opposite of what you're saying and paying out even more !

You mean to tell people here that, without shelter occupancy rate figures, and while giving you the benefit of the doubt that the homeless population increase is a fact ( nevermind the anecdotal claim that homeless folks observed at the mall has increased which is entirely separate) that the opioid epidemic has no variable in this equation?

Do we really need more shelters if the problem is existing shelters kicking people out during the day?

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No_Discussion_5687 t1_iw0i5o3 wrote

Alot of shelters only allow people to be there from certain hours overnight and people have to leave in the morning for the day until they open again at night. Not many places available during the day for homeless people especially in colder and bad weather. .

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alfaafla t1_iw1yfe4 wrote

Are you saying some don't ? Why not ? Shouldn't public resources be distributed equally ? It's likely either they permit stay during the day at all shelters or not at all across the board. If not, should it continue and should malls fill up as a consequence ?

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45hope t1_ivzswrs wrote

wait till you see the capital building!

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katieleehaw t1_ivzwjz0 wrote

People have to live bruh. Birds can sleep outside I don’t see we feel such need to stop humans from doing so.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_ivzzqfk wrote

You picked the one group of animals most famous for migrating southwards significant distances to escape harsh winter temperatures.

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unidumper t1_iw0cjta wrote

My childhood friends uncle said fuck it and went and lived in the woods. He wasn't crazy or on drugs just didn't want any responsibility. Didn't want a job. Didnt want a place to live that required having a job to pay for. I don't have an answer for the people who choose to be like that.

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unidumper t1_iw0dixh wrote

We got endless money for illegal aliens there is no excuse for citizens who want help to be left on the street . As an example look what new York threw together for illegals while also having a homeless problem.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/inside-nycs-migrant-tent-city-3-meals-fluff-and-fold-laundry-tv-even-xbox/

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Vegetable-School8337 t1_iw0e1ej wrote

It’s only a zero sum game if you make it one. We should be doing more to help homeless people AND undocumented people.

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unidumper t1_iw0exxm wrote

There is no reason people cannot legally immigrate. Illegal aliens should not be a thing..not.one penny of taxpayers money should be spent on illegals when we have citizens who need assistance. Its not our job to absorb every lay-out who can make it to the border. Immigration should benefit the host country.

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MarlKarx-1818 t1_iw0lno0 wrote

If it weren't for undocumented people who pay into our social security and are unable to receive benefits, it would have 13 billion dollars less. Source: https://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no/amp/

Additionally undocumented folks have no access to health insurance, unemployment benefits, social security, retirement benefits, car and home loans or federal financial aid. What money other than emergency services (which we provide for anyone) do we pay for undocumented people?

Also do you know how one can migrate to this country legally? Show me a pathway to permanent residency that is available to anyone that isn't already wealthy.

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unidumper t1_iw8bhfx wrote

They can get all those benefits. I'll give you 2 well known illegals who were collecting from programs they should not have been. Obamas aunt zeituni and uncle omar..Me personally I have dealt with illegals who lived on SSDI. Mortgages for illegals has been around since mid 2000s . Bank of America started that. Just because you say it don't happen dont make it that way.

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MarlKarx-1818 t1_iw8hq76 wrote

Ohhhh so you're just dumb, not just ill informed. I understand now.

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airforcereserve t1_iw8fblj wrote

There's only so much we can extract from the middle class. Our first priorities are Ukraine, undocumented immigrants, and electric vehicles. Not universal health care, gas/heat, or inflation. The midterm elections confirm this.

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BingBong022 OP t1_ivzr9mm wrote

Anyone know why so many homeless people have set up tents by the mall near the train tracks close to the highway?

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NinjaSant4 t1_ivzrl9f wrote

Because they are kicked out of everywhere else. They've also set up tents right outside the state house.

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BOKEH_BALLS t1_ivzxcu2 wrote

American wealth disparity is reaching critical levels + no social safety nets in place + housing available is not affordable whatsoever

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everyoneisnuts t1_ivzxqpm wrote

The cost of housing is absolutely absurd. Even a two income family getting paid what would have been considered a decent salary just 7-8 years ago can barely afford housing today. It is an absolute crisis.

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aKnowing t1_iw07gmm wrote

Something’s gotta be done about it eventually. I really don’t get it. The price just can’t keep going up especially from here. If landlords are raising rent every year or two there’s going to be nowhere affordable for anyone to live in ~5 years.

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