andylikescandy t1_jee0qv1 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:07 AM

Statistically intuitive: lots of first time gun buyers, coupled with a decrease in access to training.

Even in the best of times, there's a ton of friction in both running training courses and getting training, and that's for people who want it. That's to say nothing of people who simply might encounter one, without knowing anything at all about how to handle one safely (e.g. handling one they come across in someone's home)

Centrist_gun_nut t1_jeeb595 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:04 PM

This is driven almost entirely by a large increase in violent crime and suicides during the pandemic, not accidents.

grundar t1_jegy1wc wrote on March 31, 2023 at 11:02 PM

> This is driven almost entirely by a large increase in violent crime and suicides during the pandemic

Suicides decreased during the pandemic.

From the article:
> "The number of people injured by gunfire was nearly 40% higher in 2020 and 2021, compared with 2019, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a study published Thursday. In 2022, gun injuries tapered off, but were still 20% higher than before the pandemic."

By contrast, suicides were lower in 2020 than 2019, and only modestly higher in 2021 (to 2018 levels).

Check out the data table for yourself; the changes in firearm injury rate don't look at all similar to the changes in suicide rate.

Reelplayer t1_jee1s29 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:21 AM

There was also an increase in violent crimes during the COVID response. Nearly every metropolitan area saw an increase in gun-related crimes, especially gang violence, during 2020 and 2021. 2022 appears to have started to decline again.

Kelend t1_jeg5f4o wrote on March 31, 2023 at 7:41 PM

>Statistically intuitive: lots of first time gun buyers, coupled with a decrease in access to training.

Um... no.

Suicides.

Its just suicides. Mental health took a dive during covid, people were stripped of their social networks and a lot of them were barely holding on.

andylikescandy t1_jegenw1 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 8:43 PM

How many firearm suicide attempts fail? This is specifically in reference to injuries.

Kelend t1_jeghauu wrote on March 31, 2023 at 9:01 PM

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2589288/

More often than people think. The human body is resilient, and most people aren't that good with anatomy.

Also, we have the issue that suicides and suicide attempts in general are mislabeled as accidents due to 1) insurance issues 2) social acceptance.

andylikescandy t1_jegsron wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:22 PM

Ok that's a hell of a corner case you linked to though, from 34 years ago, I cannot imagine that being representative, it reminds me of people "ODing" on non-lethal medications in "suicide attempts" that were never going to work out. It's easier to get a useful firearm in than it is to Jerry rig something gun like once, and that person did it twice.